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SystemD leads to situations where it can brick your motherboard

By Cable4096 in Cable4096's Diary
Fri Jan 29, 2016 at 07:11:11 PM EST
Tags: software, technology, trenches, Linux, SystemD, brick motherboard, EFI, variables (all tags)

http://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402

Interesting that they argue that SystemD is not at fault, it is the vendors that are at fault for making motherboards that can be bricked by removing parts of the file system.

SystemD should protect the user from bricking the motherboard, but I don't think they are going to fix that.

This is like the OSX problem Crawford had when he deleted his kernel. You shouldn't be able to delete your kernel and do other things that can destroy your operating system or hardware.
Just making a typo in any Unix shell can delete everything and when it happens, bad things happen.
It makes me want to look to alternatives to Linux like ReactOS that is more like Windows. But it is still in the alpha test.

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SystemD leads to situations where it can brick your motherboard | 15 comments (15 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)

we need the kernel in ROM (none / 1) (#1)
by United Fools on Fri Jan 29, 2016 at 07:13:50 PM EST

so it cannot be erased.

How come no one even thought of it?

We are united, we are fools, and we are America!

It is in an EEPROM by Cable4096, 01/29/2016 07:43:02 PM EST (none / 0)
Then it can't be upgraded. by claes, 01/31/2016 12:33:25 PM EST (none / 0)

the kernel really only protects against users (none / 0) (#3)
by Wexel Pixel on Fri Jan 29, 2016 at 08:13:28 PM EST

there are all kinds of ways that root can crash a system. Even so, a user process should not be able to brick a motherboard. The kernel should protect against that.
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The user can make a typo by Cable4096, 01/29/2016 08:17:32 PM EST (none / 0)

but 'sudo' means root by Wexel Pixel, 01/29/2016 09:20:31 PM EST (none / 0)

who protects the user from the kernel? by United Fools, 01/29/2016 10:06:31 PM EST (none / 0)

The Fine Manual. $ by Wexel Pixel, 01/29/2016 10:31:49 PM EST (none / 1)

This really isn't the kernel's job by Vampire Zombie Abu Musab al Zarqawi, 01/30/2016 06:08:00 AM EST (none / 0)

Only idiots use SystemD $ (none / 0) (#6)
by HackerCracker on Fri Jan 29, 2016 at 10:03:40 PM EST

Idiots don't know they are using system d by United Fools, 01/29/2016 10:05:45 PM EST (none / 0)

fool| (none / 0) (#10)
by Del Griffith on Fri Jan 29, 2016 at 11:48:00 PM EST

he was downloading updates manually. He moves them all neatly archived in a heirarchy of folders, and from time to time coalesce these folders between different machines.

He just thought he could do a better job than the auto update system, and forgot to copy in the new kernel.

Obviously the OS's fault.

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Hey! by United Fools, 01/30/2016 01:27:43 AM EST (none / 1)
So... by Wexel Pixel, 01/30/2016 01:19:58 PM EST (none / 0)

SystemD Bricks Your Motherboard (none / 0) (#14)
by tdillo on Sat Jan 30, 2016 at 05:27:05 PM EST

Working as designed . . .

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SystemD leads to situations where it can brick your motherboard | 15 comments (15 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden)

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