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Why You Need to Vote on Stories

By givemegmail111 in Meta
Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 12:16:47 PM EST
Tags: kuro5hin.org (all tags)

We look like them, but there's a difference...

Kuro5hin.org looks like a lot of other weblogs you see in your everyday clicking. But there is one important difference in how we operate here, that you may not be familiar with, or even, at this point, aware of.

You see, Rusty and the other editors do not pick what stories appear on the front page here. Really. Sure, they can, but in practice, they very rarely do.

So how do stories get posted? You post them! Yes, really. The readers evaluate and decide which stories they think "fit" and which ones are just filler.

How it works, or, the life of a story
Every page has, at the top and bottom, a "submit story" link. Anyone who happens by, and has some news or some thoughts they'd like to share, can click that link, fill out a simple form, and submit new content for consideration. This is pretty familiar to many of you.
But the next step, on most sites, is that the content you submitted disappears for a while, and the Gods of the site choose whether to release it or not. Not so here, though.
When someone submits something, it goes into a list, accessable by all registered users. When you make a user account, and log in, you'll see a little box on the right, marked "Admin Tools." Click the "Moderate Submissions" link in there, and you'll see a list of pending stories, that is, stories that have been submitted, but do not yet appear on the public front page.
Click a story title in this list, and you can read the submission, and then vote whether you think it should be posted or not. You can vote to post it, drop it, or just that you don't care (+1, -1, and 0, respectively). You can also attach a comment to your vote. When enough people vote to post a story, up it goes, on the public page.
So, really and truly, you are the editors of the site. Rusty'll clean up grammar or typos from time to time, but the final decision on content is yours. And it's crucial that you do exercize your power!
Why we need you to vote
The score a story must reach to be posted is a percentage of total user accounts. I realize that not everyone wants to vote, and that's fine. The percentage is really low. But still, as the number of users grows, at least some of you need to be voting on stories, or they languish forever in the queue, unposted, yet un-dropped. Kind of a purgatorial situation for a story to be in.
So please, when you wander by, take a minute and check out the story moderation queue. Chances are, if you vote a few times, you'll be "the straw that broke the camel's back" and push a story over the threshold with your vote. Kuro5hin.org is community-edited, and the most important part of that philosophy is a community willing to edit. So please vote on pending stories. It's fun. :-)

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True 70%

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Why You Need to Vote on Stories | 32 comments (29 topical, 3 editorial, 0 hidden)

-1, that'll never work (3.00 / 6) (#1)
by bodza on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:29:32 PM EST

unless of course you had some kind of Collaborative Media Foundation.
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k5 boosterism is all good (2.62 / 8) (#2)
by Harry B Otch on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:35:30 PM EST

But who, pray tell, is the intended audience here? No one new has joined this site for almost a year, and if the rest of the old farts don't know about how voting works by now, they're probably not ever going to.

Then again, as an American, my views on voter intelligence are somewhat biased. Also, you have AIDS.

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are you conscious? by postDigital, 08/11/2008 10:59:41 PM EST (none / 0)

Holy crap YFI by debillitatus, 08/12/2008 10:15:40 AM EST (none / 0)

Well, it's topical at least... by Harry B Otch, 08/12/2008 05:03:58 PM EST (none / 0)
my mistake by postDigital, 08/14/2008 05:05:53 AM EST (none / 0)

There are currently 15 paying users and by Calalily, 08/12/2008 04:41:08 PM EST (none / 0)

To the downvoters (3.00 / 4) (#3)
by Stick Apart on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:38:01 PM EST

WHY DO YOU HATE KURO5HIN.ORG???
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JOIN THE RAY ECKSON CLUB

I don't. I just wanted to make you shout $ by bodza, 08/11/2008 10:49:53 PM EST (none / 1)

"You Make Me Wanna Shout" by Stick Apart, 08/11/2008 10:52:22 PM EST (1.66 / 6)

Fucking fag pedo by bodza, 08/11/2008 10:59:26 PM EST (1.00 / 2)

Re: $5 Entry Fee to kuro5hin.org nowadays (2.00 / 3) (#6)
by Stick Apart on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 10:54:33 PM EST

Gated community, at least in k5's case, could very well lead to it being a
gay dead community
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JOIN THE RAY ECKSON CLUB

ROR by Nimey, 08/11/2008 11:09:42 PM EST (3.00 / 2)

you realize of course (none / 1) (#10)
by mybostinks on Mon Aug 11, 2008 at 11:51:46 PM EST

people will forever hate for posting this.

Why? by givemegmail111, 08/11/2008 11:59:30 PM EST (none / 0)

HAY (1.11 / 27) (#12)
by Jobst of Moravia on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 02:32:48 AM EST

[+] [P]
Why You Need to Vote on Stories

By givemegmail111 in Meta
Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:21:37 PM NZT
Tags: kuro5hin.org (all tags) Kuro5hin.org

We look like them, but there's a difference...

You see, Rusty and the other editors do not pick what stories appear on the front page here. Really. Sure, they can, but in practice, they very rarely do.

So how do stories get posted? You post them! Yes, really. The readers evaluate and decide which stories they think "fit" and which ones are just filler.

How it works, or, the life of a story

Every page has, at the top and bottom, a "submit story" link. Anyone who happens by, and has some news or some thoughts they'd like to share, can click that link, fill out a simple form, and submit new content for consideration. This is pretty familiar to many of you.

But the next step, on most sites, is that the content you submitted disappears for a while, and the Gods of the site choose whether to release it or not. Not so here, though.

When someone submits something, it goes into a list, accessable by all registered users. When you make a user account, and log in, you'll see a little box on the right, marked "Admin Tools." Click the "Moderate Submissions" link in there, and you'll see a list of pending stories, that is, stories that have been submitted, but do not yet appear on the public front page.

Click a story title in this list, and you can read the submission, and then vote whether you think it should be posted or not. You can vote to post it, drop it, or just that you don't care (+1, -1, and 0, respectively). You can also attach a comment to your vote. When enough people vote to post a story, up it goes, on the public page.

So, really and truly, you are the editors of the site. Rusty'll clean up grammar or typos from time to time, but the final decision on content is yours. And it's crucial that you do exercize your power!

Why we need you to vote

The score a story must reach to be posted is a percentage of total user accounts. I realize that not everyone wants to vote, and that's fine. The percentage is really low. But still, as the number of users grows, at least some of you need to be voting on stories, or they languish forever in the queue, unposted, yet un-dropped. Kind of a purgatorial situation for a story to be in.

So please, when you wander by, take a minute and check out the story moderation queue. Chances are, if you vote a few times, you'll be "the straw that broke the camel's back" and push a story over the threshold with your vote. Kuro5hin.org is community-edited, and the most important part of that philosophy is a community willing to edit. So please vote on pending stories. It's fun. :-)

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This story currently has a total score of -3.

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Current score:-3
Total votes: 24

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Why You Need to Vote on Stories | 11 comments (11 topical, 0 editorial, 0 hidden) | Post A Comment
you realize of course (none / 0) (#10)
by mybostinks on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 04:51:46 PM NZT

people will forever hate for posting this.

I like you, I'll kill you last. - Killer Clown
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Why? (none / 0) (#11)
by givemegmail111 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 04:59:30 PM NZT

I thought everyone loved me.

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Re: $5 Entry Fee to kuro5hin.org nowadays (none / 0) (#6)
by Stick Apart on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:54:33 PM NZT

Gated community, at least in k5's case, could very well lead to it being a
gay dead community
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JOIN THE RAY ECKSON CLUB
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ROR (none / 1) (#9)
by Nimey on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 04:09:42 PM NZT

Rusty did redirect that to the diary section.

HOW ABOUT FIXING THE CANCEL AND DST BUGS NOW?
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To the downvoters (3.00 / 2) (#3)
by Stick Apart on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:38:01 PM NZT

WHY DO YOU HATE KURO5HIN.ORG???
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JOIN THE RAY ECKSON CLUB
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I don't. I just wanted to make you shout $ (none / 1) (#4)
by bodza on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:49:53 PM NZT

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"You Make Me Wanna Shout" (3.00 / 3) (#5)
by Stick Apart on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:52:22 PM NZT

We-eee-eeel....

You know you make me wanna (Shout!)
Kick my heels up and (Shout!)
Throw my hands up and (Shout!)
Throw my head back and (Shout!)
Come on now (Shout!)
Don't forget to say you will
Don't forget to say, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
(Say you will)
Say it right now bab-ay
(Say you will)
Come on, come on
(Say you will)
Say it, will-a you-ooooo!
(Say you will)
You got it, now!
(Say) say that you love me
(Say) say that you need me
(Say) say that you want me
(Say) you wanna please me
(Say) come on now
(Say) come on now
(Say) come on now
(Say) come on now
(Say) I still remember
(Shooby-doo-wop-do-wop-wop-wop-wop)
When you used to be nine years old
(Shooby-doo-wop-do-wop-wop-wop-wop)
Yeah-yeah!
I was a fool for you, from the bottom of my soul, yeah!
(Shooby-doo-wop-do-wop-wop-wop-wop)
Now that you've grown, up
(Shooby-doo-wop-do-wop-wop-wop-wop)
Enough to know, yeah yeah
(Shooby-doo-wop-do-wop-wop-wop-wop)
You wanna leave me, you wanna, let me go
(Shooby-doo-wop-do-wop)

I want you to know
I said I want you to know right now, yeah!
You been good to me baby
Better than I been to myself, hey! hey!
An if you ever leave me
I don't want nobody else, hey! hey!
I said I want you to know-ho-ho-hey!
I said I want you to know right now, hey! hey!

You know you make me wanna
(Shout-wooo) hey-yeah
(Shout-wooo) yeah-yeah-yeah
(Shout-wooo) aaaalll-right
(Shout-wooo) aaaalll-right
(Shout-wooo) come on now!
(Shout) come on now!
(Shout) yeah, yeah, yeah
(Shout) yeah, yeah, yeah (good sound)
(Shout) yeah, yeah, yeah (good sound)
(Shout) yeah, yeah, yeah (good sound)
(Shout) all-alright (good sound)
(Shout) it's all-alright (good sound)
(Shout) all-alright (good sound)
(Shout) all-alright (aah)

Now wai-a-ait a minute!
I feel aaaaaaallllllright!
(Yeah-Yeah, Yeah-Yeah!)
(OOOOOOOOW)
Now that I got my woman
I feel aaaaaaaalllllright!
(Yeah-Yeah, Yeah-Yeah, Yeah-Yeah)
Every time I think about you
You been so good to me
You know you make me wanna
(Shout-wooo) lift my heels up and
(Shout-wooo) throw my head back and
(Shout-wooo) kick my heels up and
(Shout-wooo) come on now
(Shout-wooo) take it easy
(Shout-wooo) take it easy
(Shout-wooo) take it easy (higher)
(Shout) a little bit softer now (wooo)
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now
(Shout) a little bit softer now

(Shout) a little bit louder now
(Shout) a little bit louder now
(Shout) a little bit louder now (ooo)
(Shout) a little bit louder now
(Shout) a little bit louder now
(Shout) a little bit louder now

(Shout) a little bit louder now (wooo)
(Shout) a little bit louder now (wooo)
(Shout) a little bit louder now (wooo)
(Shout) a little bit louder now (wooo)
(Shout) a little bit louder now (wooo)
(Shout) a little bit louder now
(Shout)
Hey-Hey-A-Hey
(Hey-Hey-A-Hey)
Hey-A-Hey-A
(Hey-A-Hey-A)
Hey-A-Hey-A)
(Hey-A-Hey-A)
Hey-A-A-Hey)
(Hey-A-A-Hey)

Jump Now!
Jump up and shout now (wooo)
Jump up and shout now (wooo)
Jump up and shout now (wooo)
Jump up and shout now (wooo)
Jump up and shout now (wooo)
Everybody shout now
Everybody shout now
Everybody, shout, shout
Shout, shout, shout
Shout, shout, shou-out
Shout, shout, shou-out
Shout, shout, shout, shout (oh-whoa-yeah)
Shout, shout, shout, shout (oh yeah)
Shout, shout, shout, shout
Everybody shout now (ooo)
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Fucking fag pedo (none / 0) (#7)
by bodza on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:59:26 PM NZT

...
When you used to be nine years old
(Shooby-doo-wop-do-wop-wop-wop-wop) Yeah-yeah!
I was a fool for you, from the bottom of my soul, yeah!
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k5 boosterism is all good (3.00 / 3) (#2)
by Harry B Otch on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:35:30 PM NZT

Then again, as an American, my views on voter intelligence are somewhat biased. Also, you have AIDS.

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are you conscious? (none / 0) (#8)
by postDigital on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:59:41 PM NZT

I believe that Kuro5hin picked-up a new member just today.

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-1, that'll never work (3.00 / 3) (#1)
by bodza on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 03:29:32 PM NZT

unless of course you had some kind of Collaborative Media Foundation.
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This is better than the story I just voted down by Hiphopopotamus, 08/12/2008 12:06:52 PM EST (3.00 / 3)

thats cuz my name is on it by Jobst of Moravia, 08/13/2008 02:19:51 AM EST (3.00 / 5)

Holla by Hiphopopotamus, 08/13/2008 10:17:09 AM EST (none / 1)

Your vote (0) was recorded. (none / 0) (#16)
by gr3y on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:07:42 AM EST

This story currently has a total score of -3.

This information is covered by the FAQ. You've added nothing new to the conversation, not even a "me too" attempt at presenting a case for participation in the voting process.

More interesting, perhaps, would be an analysis of the number and names routinely voting today, compared to one year ago, three years ago, and five years ago, given their opportunity to vote. I'll advance the assertions that only a certain number of accounts routinely vote, that this number is a relatively fixed percentage of the total number of active accounts, and that as the number of active voting accounts has declined over the years, the voting threshhold has been lowered to make it easier to get stories posted, and posted to the front page in particular.

I'll also advance the assertion that the cause of the declining vote threshhold has been incorrectly attributed to lack of content, and not declining readership.

I am a disruptive technology.

I used to check this site at least once a day (none / 0) (#17)
by jubal3 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:09:59 AM EST

But now I don't bother.

There's rarely anything posted, what is posted is half crap-flooding. The response by the "community" here usually consists of worse than average internet trolls.

I vote when I see something up, but that's rare. everytime I post anything, to a diary or as a story, I get so disgusted with the response I swear off for a while.

Sorry Rusty, K5 is pretty well dead. Killed by crapflooders, trolls and plain old rude asshats who obviously didn't get enough spankings as children.

There's maybe a dozen people on the site anymore I have any desire to hear from, and a lot of those rarely participate anyway.

***Never attribute to malice that which can be easily attributed to incompetence. -HB Owen***

Jubal3 has posted 3 stories and 6 diaries? by livus, 08/12/2008 07:26:44 PM EST (none / 0)

O HAI I JUST VOTED ON A STORY (3.00 / 6) (#19)
by debillitatus on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 10:17:07 AM EST

I VOTED -1

Damn you and your daily doubles, you brigand!

Rusty voted this up (3.00 / 4) (#21)
by United Fools on Tue Aug 12, 2008 at 01:45:45 PM EST

So should you

We are united, we are fools, and we are America!

Rusty knows good writing when he sees it! by givemegmail111, 08/12/2008 05:02:38 PM EST (3.00 / 2)
I thought you were rusty. by NoMoreNicksLeft, 08/13/2008 01:21:57 PM EST (none / 0)

Make it easy (3.00 / 2) (#29)
by Bryan Bytehead on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 07:35:26 PM EST

Make an RSS feed for all stories, not just those that make the front page. That way, when I see something I want more information on, I can look at it and vote it up or down. As it is, with the current RSS feed I just get the stuff on the front page. Sorry, I don't want to be thinking about visiting on a daily basis to see if there might be something to vote on.
Visit my blog.

dear god- (2.66 / 3) (#30)
by nononoitaintmebabe on Wed Aug 13, 2008 at 08:47:00 PM EST

how the hell did this get voted up?

wasn't it a joke?

or did you all vote it up as a joke?

It's postmodern, dipshit by QuantumFoam, 08/13/2008 11:46:29 PM EST (1.33 / 3)

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