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The Great Modern Glucose Poisoning Epidemic

By localroger in Science
Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 07:01:42 PM EST
Tags: health, localroger bloviates (all tags)

There is about a one in three chance that you are seriously ill and don't even know it. It's not a disease caused by a pathogen but a chronic long-term poisoning that starts with your pancreas and nervous system. In the first decade or so you aren't even aware that you are ill, but your nervous, endocrine, and circulatory systems are decaying. Eventually random symptoms start to appear, the kind of things we tend to blow off as "just getting old."


Not everyone is affected but if you are you will eventually get diabetes, heart disease, cancer, or severe systemic infections that will make you miserable and kill you years before your time.

If you go to the doctor you will probably be misdiagnosed. Only a small percentage of doctors know about what is currently coming to be known as "metabolic syndrome." Chances are your high blood pressure will be treated (with drugs that make the impotence you're already experiencing from the syndrome even worse) but your moderately high resting blood glucose will be declared a watch-list problem for the future.

Your doctor probably will not order a glucose tolerance test, which might reveal your hidden condition, because it costs more than a resting glucose test. And if your doctor is one of the rare progressive ones who knows about the "syndrome" and its ultimate effects, odds are he will put you on a diabetes drug like Metformin, or even insulin, that won't really fix the problem -- even though a total and complete fix for the problem has been known for almost 100 years.

1. Glucose

There is only one organ in your body that absolutely needs glucose, but that organ is your brain. Just as a lack of oxygen will quickly cause irreversible damage, a lack of glucose in your bloodstream will quickly kill you. American doctors use milligrams per deciliter, mg/dl, as the yardstick for blood glucose and in that unit a measurement of 80 is considered healthy and normal. A measurement of 60 is likely to mean you are feeling weak and light-headed. A measurement of 40 is grounds for an immediate trip to the hospital.

But the reactivity that makes glucose such a good fuel for those cells that want it also makes it corrosive. Your body has defences that allow it to deal with moderate amounts of glucose sufficient to fulfill its energy needs, but it's possible for your body to lose its ability to control the glucose level in your bloodstream. Once your glucose levels are measured at 200 mg/dl you will be diagnosed with diabetes. At 400 mg/dl you will actually start to feel bad. At 800 mg/dl you are in imminent danger of a hell of a lot of lethal complications.

The regulation of glucose in your blood is a bit complicated and strange. The glucose in your blood it isn't automatically used by your body; the enzyme insulin is necessary to tell your cells that it's OK to take what's there. Insulin is produced by your pancreas, normally in response to high blood sugar levels. And those high blood sugar levels generally result because you've eaten something that contains sugars or other carbohydrates that can easily be broken down into glucose.

At night, when you haven't eaten for awhile, you generally run out of blood glucose because your nervous system does use it on a constant basis. At this point your liver wakes up and starts making the stuff. Your liver and pancreas don't cooperate very closely, and your liver tends to set a level that might be called "kind of a running average for the last few days" regardless of whether such an average is healthy or not. This is why your doctor will order a "resting" blood glucose test if you show early symptoms of diabetes; it's a simple, cheap test involving only one blood sample, that isn't affected too much by what you're doing at the instant it's taken.

But your blood glucose level varies over the course of a day, according to what you eat and what you're doing. If you're healthy, it will shoot up to 120 after you eat a meal full of sugars and fast-release carbs, and then it will settle back to 80 within an hour or so. If you're not healthy, it might spike to 200 or more, or it might settle at 160 and take hours to return to normal.

If your resting glucose is over 100 you should be very wary, because levels over 140 are chronically toxic -- every minute of your life that your glucose is over 140 you are being poisoned. Your nervous system, circulatory system, and pancreas are particularly vulnerable. And the poisoning of your pancreas is the start of a very nasty positive feedback loop, because it reduces your ability to control your blood sugar even more, causing more and longer spiking of levels. Eventually your body can't keep up at all, and you'll finally be diagnosed as a diabetic.

2. How Do I Find Out if I Have a Problem?

There are three tests your doctor can order to investigate your blood sugar control situation. I've already talked about the resting test, a simple test of your instantaneous blood glucose level in the morning before you've eaten anything. Odds are your doctor won't get very worried about it unless it's over 110 mg/dl. And you can be very sick indeed and have it come in under 100.

A much better test is the glucose tolerance test. This still requires you to report to the doctor in the morning before you eat, and have a resting test done; but then you drink a standard shot of glucose, and at intervals of 30 minutes, 1 hour, and 2 hours further blood tests are taken. This reveals how your body reacts to a sudden jolt of glucose. Very often it reacts badly. My own body will let my glucose fly above 200 for an hour or so before yanking it back down below 100. Other people will see it drift up to 160 or 170 and hang there for hours. There are two sets of pancreatic beta cells that react to keep your blood sugar under control. One set acts quickly, based loosely according to the levels required by your last few big meals, but is intended to slightly under-react. This "first phase" response is meant to keep your sugar level from soaring over 120. The second set acts more slowly but brings your sugar level back to 80 over the next couple of hours.

In my case, the first phase response is inadequate, so that if I eat one candy bar my blood sugar soars over 200. But the second phase is there, and within a couple of hours my levels will be more or less normal. For most people who have this kind of problem it's the other way around; the first phase response might keep them to 160, but then it stays at 160 for hours.

Another test which is usually prescribed for people who have been solidly diagnosed with diabetes is the A1c. This measures the amount of glucose stuck to your hemoglobin. This tends to reflect the average level of your blood glucose over the life of a red blood cell, or several months, and many doctors regard it as the gold standard. It's more expensive than a simple resting glucose test, though. An A1c level of about 4% corresponds to 80 mg/dl, although most doctors will consider levels as high as 8% "good" for a diabetic.

The problem is that A1c tests don't show after-meal spiking, which might be making your blood toxic to your most sensitive organs for much of the day but not driving up the long-term average all that much.

My gold standard for blood sugar control would be multiple tolerance tests, carried out with various kinds of foods. No doctor would ever prescribe this, but fortunately it's now possible to buy pretty reliable glucose meters over the counter for under USD$100 and do it yourself. Your results won't be as accurate as the lab your doctor would hire, but you don't need accuracy for a tolerance test; if your levels ever go over 140 for any reason you have a serious problem. If the meter from Wal-Mart says 200 after you eat a Snickers bar, as mine did, you don't need three decimal places to confirm it.

3. So What's the Big Deal?

  • Obesity that doesn't respond to diet or exercise
  • Lethargy
  • Skin rashes
  • Gout
  • Erectile Dysfunction
  • Infertility
  • Slow wound healing
  • Neuropathy (loss of feeling or control in extremeties)
  • Retinopathy (blindness)
  • Kidney failure
  • High triglicerides ("bad cholesterol")
  • High blood pressure
  • Heart disease
  • Cancer
You may or may not get any of the particular symptoms on that list (or a whole slew of others); odds are one of them will kill you before you develop some of the others. But if your blood sugar is spiking over 140 after meals, even if you feel relatively healthy today you will eventually get Type II diabetes. Once you're a full-on diabetic it only gets more fun; you can have limbs amputated and go insane. Or you can screw up your insulin therapy and die of an accidental hypo.

It's very likely your doctor will confuse some of these symptoms with causes of your misery. WebMD.com still cites "an unhealthy lifestyle that includes eating too many high-calorie foods" as the first and most prominent causative factor for metabolic syndrome. This isn't really so; your sugar levels can be spiking after meals even if you eat a reasonable number of calories, and if that's the case you may gain weight even if you exercise all you can and eat like a bird. Exercise helps, because it can reduce glucose tolerance. But by the time you even realize something is wrong you might not be able to exercise enough to make a difference.

The fat that lines your arteries to lay the groundwork for that heart attack in your future also isn't the fat you eat; triglicerides are the fat your body makes from the sugars and complex carbohydrates you eat. Normally your body wouldn't line your arteries with this stored energy, but normally your blood glucose levels aren't over 140 either.

And while the link to cancer is less obvious, it's now known that most cancers rely heavily on glucose. Normal cells are killed by their own mitochondria when they turn cancerous; cells that grow into tumors have malfunctioning mitochondria. But the mitochondria are also responsible for burning glucose to power the cell's metabolism. Cancer cells must bypass their malfunctioning mitochondria by burning the glucose anaerobically, a process that's only about five percent as efficient as the normal combination of glucose with oxygen. So while it's not known at all whether high glucose levels cause cells to turn renegade, it seems quite reasonable that they have an easier time survivinging and working their mayhem when high glucose levels are available.

4. You, Insulin, and Certain Banned Performance Enhancers

Some people become diabetic because their pancreatic beta cells are destroyed by an automimmune reaction when they're young; this means their cells would listen if the insulin was there but they can't make the stuff. This is Type I diabetes.

Sugar control problems that arise in adulthood usually involve insulin resistance. This means your pancreas is capable of putting out a normal amount of insulin but your cells aren't listening, so it's having to produce more and more to keep your blood sugar under control. Eventually your body will need so much insulin to function normally that your pancreas just can't supply it. This is Type II diabetes.

If you're among the estimated one in three afflicted with "metabolic syndrome" you're most likely insulin resistant. That means your body is pumping ever larger amounts of insulin into your bloodstream in order to try and keep your sugar levels normal.

Insulin is an anabolic steroid. It's just as unhealthy to have lots of insulin running around in your bloodstream as it is to be shooting up other anabolic steroids to build up your muscles.

The reason is that your body maintains a delicate balance between anabolic processes (which build up flesh out of simple compounds) and catabolic processes (which break down tissue into its components). With all that extra anabolic activity going on, some other anabolic activity might be curtailed -- such as your sex drive or wound healing. Or your body might compensate by piling on some more catabolic activity to maintain the balance, generally building excess fat that makes you overweight and lines your arteries.

5. The Epidemic

Even though it's not a communicable disease, diabetes and its associated effects are regarded as an epidemic by most health organizations.

5.1 WTF?

Yeah, that was my reaction too.

6. How I Diagnosed and Treated Myself

In November of 2005, not long after a big round weather phenomenon I've written way too much about, my mother was diagnosed with Type II diabetes and I got a little lecture about how this was another thing I needed to watch for, like the heart disease on my Dad's side of the family and the colon cancer on hers. Great.

I got to thinking about it and a lot of the things that had happened in my thirties, a generally miserable decade when my body insisted on falling apart no matter what kind of diet or exercise I tried. As a New Year's resolution for 2006 I bought a blood glucose meter and bood pressure meter.

A doctor would have been most alarmed at my blood pressure, 167/119. Ouch. The fasting glucose was a bit more tentative at 110 mg/dl. After a bit of Googling I decided to eat a Snickers bar and see what happened. What happened was it went up to 200.

I knew that wasn't right.

Starting in January of 2006 I stopped eating anything that made my blood glucose go over 140. I'll get to what that required shortly, but let me just say I didn't starve myself, I ate quite well, and didn't exercise in any new ways or do anything else outside of my old routine.

By mid-February my blood pressure was down to 125/85, I had lost 40 pounds, and my resting blood sugar was 85. I haven't bothered having my cholesterol checked but I'm confident thanks to thousands of anecdotal reporters before me that it's probably gone from horrible to OK. I also have more energy and stamina than I've had since my late 20's, and have been kind of scarce lately because I decided to devote that energy to the previously unthinkable project of building a house -- with my own hands.

My mother had been promised that she would need insulin, but when she and Dad saw my weight loss and I explained to them what I was doing, she took up my habits. Her doctor initially told her she was wasting her time with all those measurements on different foods but then, later, was astonished at the improvement in her numbers. She is now weaning herself from the diabetes medication he'd prescribed.

A coworker was diagnosed several years ago with hypertension, and he was also curious. I loaned him my glucose meter and noted that his numbers were almost the same as mine were in January 2006. He's not as diligent as I am but has started trying to eat more to the meter, and his doctor has been astonished at the improvement in his bloodwork too. It's now obvious he was misdiagnosed and he is trying to wean himself from the blood pressure medication; unfortunately, that's tricky. Trust me, it's better to never go on that stuff in the first place if you don't have to.

7. So what can I eat, you're asking?

Well, the news is bad in some ways. I found out I couldn't eat a lot of things, even in relatively small amounts -- not just sugar, but pasta, bread, rice, potatoes and corn, or any of the huge number of things mostly made from those things.

On the other hand I'm not starving myself, and I can eat some fine things. I eat meat of all kinds, eggs, dairy products, and green vegetables. A fine meal is a steak with sauteed mushrooms substituted for the baked potato every restaurant wants to serve, or a hamburger with no bun (they usually put it on a bed of lettuce) and side salad instead of fries. Ranch and Bleu Cheese dressings are safe for the salads.

I'm not limiting calories. If I'm hungry, I eat. I find I eat a lot less on this diet; when I've had enough, I'm FULL and can't eat any more.

In the first few weeks it seemed really hard, but then it got easier. I'm so much healthier now, and I don't have the cravings that seem to be triggered by the availability of those high-carbohydrate foods, and it's very easy for me to imagine living like this for the rest of my life. I'll probably have to.

Everyone asks about fruit. I could probably eat fruit, in season and in reasonable quantity, if my metabolism wasn't already broken. But one of my mentors, Dr. Lutz, calls fruit "vitamin enriched sugar water" and is kind of down on it.

Q1. Where do you get your vitamins?

One source is green leafy vegetables; I tend to eat a lot more of them now that I'm not eating so much other junk. But I don't think that alone is enough.

I think the real key is animal fat. If you're not eating carbohydrates, which I'm pretty much not, then you have to eat fat or you'll get a really bad nutritional deficiency. (If you're eating fat, your body will make the carbs it needs for your nervous system to function. It can't do that if you're just eating protein.) And nobody knows exactly how, but it's clear from numerous anecdotal experiences that people who are eating animal fat also don't get vitamin deficiencies, including scurvy.

Arctic explorer Vilhjalmur Stefansson wasn't believed when he reported in the early 1900's that the Canadian Eskimos maintained their health eating nothing but meat for months at a time. In 1928 he volunteered to spend a year under hospital observation to prove his claim. His observers expected him to quickly acquire a range of deficiency diseases, but he actually left the hospital in better health than he entered it.

Q2. But isn't fat bad for you?

All of the studies that have ever purported to show that have shown it in conjunction with a high carbohydrate intake. There have been hardly any formal studies of the kind of radical low-carb diet I am following.

The anecdotal evidence, though, from literally thousands of people, suggests that a low-carb high-fat diet is healthier than a high-carb diet.

Q3. You're kidding, right?

I wish I was. But people like the Inuit who live almost entirely on meat don't get scurvy or diabetes -- until they're introduced to a typical Western diet. That's a pattern all over the world when aboriginal populations are introduced to our eating habits. And I can't help but notice that I've been doing this for 16 months now and I'm healthier than I've been since 1990 or so.

People whose ancestors have been farming the longest have the fewest problems with diabetes and related complications. But modern transportation has made it possible for previously isolated populations to mix, and now all those nasty recessive traits evolution has been trying to eliminate for 10,000 years are coming back out. That's why it's an epidemic.

8. The Tinfoil Hat Story

It sounds ripped from the pages of a modern thriller. A new technology is created promising undreamed-of abundance. It makes all kinds of new modalities possible, such that very soon after its introduction it can't ever be given up. But there's a catch; it's booby-trapped. It makes you sick and kills you young, and it will do the same to your children and friends.

Nuclear radiation? Chemical toxins?

Nope -- Farming.

The problem is that farming was a great thing for Homo Sapiens. Farming put us at the top of the food chain and made it possible for us to have a high population and engage in specialized occupations, so that we might learn about things like glucose metabolism and insulin. Farming is also great for your civilization, because with that vastly increased population you can raise armies, feed armorers, and generally walk all over your non-farming neighbors.

But it wasn't such a great thing for us as individuals.

Those foods we farm don't exist in nature; we have selectively bred all of the foods we farm to make them much more fecund than their natural ancestors. If we lived as hunter-gatherers we'd mostly eat meat, nuts, and berries unless we happened upon some temporary high-carb bonanza such as a grove of ripe fruit trees. And in such a limited temporary circumstance, the most sensible thing to do would be to gorge on all that storable energy before it rotted or some other animal got there to store it instead of you.

So in that light, our reaction to high carb foods -- to eat too much of them even when our health is in jeapordy -- makes sense; our ancestors never had a reason to regulate their intake of such foods, and the cravings we have inherited from them reflect the desirability of such foods during periods of temporary bounty. Nature never prepared us to be confronted with a limitless supply of this stuff.

Some of us have adapted to the new circumstance. Some of us, like myself, adapted only partially, and a bit of a trauma -- like an operation in our late 20's -- can make us vulnerable. And a lot of us just can't handle these foods at all.

9. Oh Yeah I Was on That Diet Once

Usually heard from waitresses -- closely followed by "and I lost 30 pounds, but then I went off of it and gained it all back."

I spent several months wondering if I would ever write about this, and then nearly a year wondering what I would write about it that wouldn't sound just plain crazy. For the last 16 months I feel as if I have been aging in reverse; I am healthier now at the age of 43 than I was when I was 33. I am still not doing any exercise or regulating my calorie intake any more than I ever did; I just eat different stuff and watch the meter. I've gotten a few nasty surprises, things I thought were OK that made the reading go up. It's surprising where you find sugar and starch, especially in fast foods.

I've mentioned what I was doing here a couple of times, and one commenter memorably said "I'd give up sex before I'd give up complex carbohydrates!" A dramatic comparison to be sure, but how reasonable does that choice sound when I mention that you might actually literally be faced with it?

10. Well why not just go on insulin? Technology wins!

Most people don't use reactive insulin therapy; they take a "basal" dose that doesn't respond to foods they eat. It's not unusual at all for diabetics taking insulin to see glucose levels of 300 mg/dl after a meal. Their doctors don't think it's a problem because their average as tested via A1c is relatively benign. But those spikes are progressing and worsening their condition even though they're under "therapy." This is why most diabetics see their health continue to deteriorate even though they are told by their doctors that their diabetes is "under control."

Sugar levels most doctors consider "good enough for a diabetic" aren't really all that good. It's possible to keep them to normal levels, even if you are fully diabetic. Drugs alone cannot do it though. Drugs, including insulin, can reduce your blood sugar levels but they can only normalize your levels if you control your diet too.

And insulin therapy is much more dangerous than all but the most advanced cases of diabetes itself. The problem with taking insulin is that you are overriding all of your body's natural feedback mechanisms, and if you take too much and don't eat enough carbohydrates to justify it, your sugar levels can drop to levels never seen in a healthy person, 40 mg/dl and even lower. Too low and you'll lose consciousness.

The same thing is true of non-insulin diabetes drugs that work by triggering insulin release. And those others like metformin that work in other ways are less dangerous, but are also even less capable of normalizing your insulin levels if you're eating a high carbohydrate diet.

11. My Occasional Friend Carl

A long time ago (or so it seems) I mentioned a guy C who I'd occasionally see at the local Applebees when I'd go in and eat at the bar. When last I mentioned him he was complaining about the invasion of Chalmatians into St. Tammany Parish. When he saw what I was eating late that January he asked what I was up to and when I explained he enthusiastically started talking about his own adventure. "Yeah, my sugar was 800 when I finally went to the doctor," he laughed. "Damn near died."

C encouraged me and congratulated me for catching it while I could still regulate it by diet. He'd been in the Marines his entire adult life, running 7 miles a day. He retired when he was 40, and by the time he was 41 he was being checked into the hospital with full-on diabetes and 800 mg/dl blood glucose. Exercise can keep it at bay, but if you stop exercising ... well, then it stops keeping it at bay.

Sometime around August of 2006 I happened to be in the restaurant and realized I hadn't seen C in awhile. I asked the bartender about him, and she turned about the color of bleached paper. "Carl died," L kinda choked. "He lived alone you know, and he went into insulin shock and nobody was there to help him."

In those rare times when I'm tempted to say "screw the meter, I'm in the mood for a donut" I think of Carl.

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Resources

If you have any suspicion at all that you might have metabolic syndrome or diabetes, please refer to Jenny:

What They Don't Tell You About Diabetes

She's no doctor, just a gal using her formidable researching skills to try and deal with her own diabetes. If what you read on her page interests you in something more authoritative, get this book:

Life Without Bread

Dr. Wolfgang Lutz has treated literally thousands of patients with the low-carbohydrate diet. The book was originally published (in German) in 1967 and translated into English and updated in 2000. It's extensively footnoted with references to actual scientific articles for those who don't just want to take his word for it all.

I'd love to refer you to well-respected establishment resources like WebMD or the American Diabetes Association, but my personal experience -- crass anecdote that it is -- suggests that their advice is not just a little wrong, but disastrously wrong. And I'm not the only one.

I leave it as an exercise for the diligent reader to determine whether that's because I have hallucinated the improvement in my health in the last 16 months, or our medical peoples is stupid, or maybe because nobody stands to make a pile of money from advising you to order an omelette instead of pancakes for breakfast.

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The Great Modern Glucose Poisoning Epidemic | 225 comments (213 topical, 12 editorial, 1 hidden)
That was actually really good (none / 1) (#3)
by Kariik on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 12:57:32 PM EST

Got kind of long-winded though. At about 7 pages long, I admit I just skimmed through parts of it. Sections 2-4 just didnt sound interesting. Try coming up with catchier names.

Summary for short attention spans (2.66 / 3) (#6)
by FattMattP on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 01:19:13 PM EST

If you don't want to read the whole thing this entire story can be summarized as, "I switched to the Atkins diet and improved my health." The diet is dead-on Atkins and everything else is a paraphrase of what is in all of the Atkins books. Excellent write up, localroger.

Vitamins (none / 1) (#9)
by FattMattP on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 02:15:15 PM EST

Are you taking any vitamin supplements or are you relying only on your food intake? I didn't see anything about supplements so I assume it is the latter.

Selected points. (2.66 / 3) (#12)
by sudogeek on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 03:15:14 PM EST

  1. The brain can metabolize glucose and so-called ketone bodies which are derived from short-chain fatty acids (acetoacetate and beta-hydroxy butyrate). Under conditions of starvation or insulin lack (such as diabetic ketoacidosis), these may be the predominant fuel.

  2. I'll leave alone the telegraphic description of glucose level regulation and control of insulin secretion but it is a lot more complicated. The role of so-called counterregulatory hormones such as cortisol is clearly important in "Syndrome X" or metabolic syndrome.

  3. You properly point out insulin resistance but this deserves to be emphasized. Persons with this metabolic syndrome have elevated insulin levels, like those with adult-onset (so-called type 2) diabetes. Insulin resistance is not a pancreatic problem.  Indeed, the pancreatic islet cells are behaving just as they should - higher glucose demands more insulin release. The problem is a reduced response to insulin by the target cells, particularly the liver. The mechanisms of insulin resistance are still not fully elucidated. Other hormones such as cortisol, adipin, glucagon, and some we don't know about yet play a role.

  4. The early lesion of arteriosclerosis is indeed the "fatty streak" but the mechanism is not related to elevated triglycerides in the blood. Atherosclerosis, the more proper term, begins as an inflammatory response in the arterial wall. Certain inflammatory cells called macrophages tend to accumulate fat.

  5. The relation of high fat diets to increased rates of certain cancers like breast cancer is clear. The relation to high carbohydrate diets or obesity to any increase in cancer in weak  or absent. There is no evidence that diabetics have more rapidly growing or more aggressive cancers.

  6. Insulin is not an anabolic hormone. Anabolic hormones are defined as those which cause positive nitrogen balance and increased protein mass. Muscle weight does increase in diabetics because glucose entry into muscle cells in not dependent on insulin. In the setting of high glucose levels, muscles take up glucose and store it as glycogen. This does not increase muscle strength; indeed, contraction strength per unit weight is decreased.

  7. A correct dietary prescription is reduced carbohydrates but also reduced refined carbohydrates - whole vegetables and starches instead of white bread and high fructose corn syrup. The total number of calories is reduced as carbohydrate intake is reduced. A compensatory increase in fat or protein intake is counter productive. More meat and saturated fat substitutes hyperlipidemia and coronary disease for diabetes. If you look at societies or cultures where longevity is common, or even at long-lived individuals, the common thread in calorie restriction.

There's a sucker born every minute, and you're an hour's worth.
Only one slight problem here (2.66 / 3) (#15)
by tetsuwan on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 03:29:47 PM EST

Six (or even two) billion people can not eat your diet. But I will certainly keep your advice in mind.

Can you eat beans?

Njal's Saga: Just like Romeo & Juliet without the romance

Well written and very informative. +FP from me. (none / 1) (#16)
by dakini on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 03:51:05 PM EST

Glucose tolerance tests are done quite regular here. They are done in the lab. Diabetes is quite a common ailment with our first nations people and it is on the rise. I think more people should be more aware of the testing that is available and encourage them to speak to their doctors.

" May your vision be clear, your heart strong, and may you always follow your dreams."
+1 FP (1.50 / 2) (#17)
by balsamic vinigga on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 04:22:59 PM EST

Though you may want to consider making a series out of it since there's so much more to all this. I notice that asian people seem to handle carbs fairly well and I wonder if that has to do with their genetics adapted to a long history of farming combined with their (compared to westerners) genetic isolation...

I myself am mid twenties now with low side of normal fasting blood glucose and high side of normal blood pressure (though it gets concerningly high when i'm stressed).. I'm also the sort that seems to be able to overeat carbs all day without putting on weight.  As such, I continue to..  but I do begin to feel guilty about that and wondering if I'm destroying my health.

Do you think it's best to wait for a candybar to spike our blood sugar to 200 before taking action, or should we all work to lower our carb intake to a more hunter-gatherer level? It would be nice if the USDA food pyramid were altered with all this new evidence in mind, but the food pyramid continues to insist we gorge ourselves with grain and minimize fat...

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Didnt notice.... (none / 1) (#20)
by The Amazing Idiot on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 04:52:21 PM EST

I drink alcohol.

I dont get drunk, because I dont like it, and I weigh about 300 lbs (so it takes a lot).

How does alcohol affect your glucose levels?

I'm very close to "that" point, and some diet like this could work well for me. Well, it'll work better than the crap I eat already.

Thanks for the wonderful article. +1 FP from me.

I have also had success with a low-carb diet (none / 1) (#22)
by curien on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 05:03:12 PM EST

I was only on it for a short time, but I lost 30 pounds. After I got off it, I put 10 back on immediately (which left me at an extremely healthy weight -- 22.5 BMI). After a couple of years of maintaining that weight on a normal diet, I started to get stressed and overworked; I put all that weight back on in a one year period. With a little bit of attention, I've lost ten pounds of that (I'm now hovering just over 25 BMI). I'm considering going back on a low-carb diet again.

I'm still quite young, so when I went on the low-carb diet, I didn't really feel better or "younger" than I do normally. It was easy, though, and my body seemed to take to it like a fish to water (my wife is another story -- her bowels were a wreck the entire time).

There are a lot of things about human nutrition that I think modern medical conventional wisdom has completely wrong. Milk is one, and this is another. Hopefully, the emerging evidence will point folks in the right direction.

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Murder your babies. -- R Mutt

Knew there was a reason I hated french fries (1.00 / 2) (#29)
by LilDebbie on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 06:48:11 PM EST

besides the association to France, that is. Why I order from the dollar menu. Give me a burger with a side of nuggets, plz kthnx!

Too late now for the article, but it's important to mention the importance of a low-carb diet as opposed to a no-carb diet as is fashionable these days. Ketosis can kill you faster than glucose spikes.

Regarding conspiracy theories, it's simple really: grains and starchy foods are cheap, meat is expensive. As for those morons who intentionally divest themselves of wholesome, nutritious meat, well, they'll get what they deserve.

My name is LilDebbie and I have a garden.
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Good & Bad Carbs (none / 1) (#36)
by mike3k on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 09:34:32 PM EST

That's basically the South Beach Diet. I did it about 3 years ago and lost 50 pounds. I've kept that weight off, staying near my ideal weight of 150 pounds ever since then. At this point I basically avoid non-diet soft drinks and eat lots of whole grain & high fiber foods.

The important thing is to avoid foods that spike your glucose level (high glycemic index).

What about "little roger"? (none / 1) (#39)
by xC0000005 on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 10:06:22 PM EST

Did the new diet help with Impotence/ED? I'm not into Bob Dole territory yet (knock on wood) but I'd like to avoid it it should ever rear its ugly head.

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It's not an enzyme (2.50 / 2) (#40)
by a boy and his bike on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 10:30:59 PM EST

Insulin is a hormone. Stopped reading there. Sorry!

How do these poll numbers add up to 287 %? (2.00 / 1) (#43)
by ClaimJumper on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 10:54:13 PM EST

To much blood sugar sex majic?


good job k5 (1.50 / 2) (#47)
by SCORCHED zombie Private Papers on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 11:37:09 PM EST

vote up a story by a wanna be scifi author that tells people their doctor is wrong and will misdiagnose them.

truth be told the medical industry is just out there to fuck you over. doctors don't care. listen to localroger.


Sounds like the glycemic index. (2.50 / 1) (#48)
by Pentashagon on Sun Apr 22, 2007 at 11:44:34 PM EST

Glycemic index.

Since you mention you are lacking the first phase of insulin production, you might benefit from snacking on some low GI foods an hour or so before eating, and then having any medium or high GI foods you like after your insulin response is up. I guess it all depends on how high you can boost your secondary response, and how long you want to spend building it up. I imagine with small enough portions you could probably get your response high enough to eat just about anything, but then you'd have to do the reverse and keep snacking on medium and then low GI foods to keep your blood sugar from crashing.

Have you looked into the long term heart risks of a high(er) fat diet? Do you just eat fish or seafood to keep your HDL/LDL ratio high?

Hmm. (2.50 / 2) (#53)
by creature on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 05:28:37 AM EST

I know that an anecdote is not data, but:

And nobody knows exactly how, but it's clear from numerous anecdotal experiences that people who are eating animal fat also don't get vitamin deficiencies, including scurvy.
I have a friend who managed to give herself scurvy in university because her diet was so horrid. It was mostly meat-based, with very very few vegetables. She got it twice, in fact - admitted herself to hospital and told them she had scurvy. They didn't believe her at first but they tested her and she did indeed have it.

And now, a question. If I've had something quite sugary (and to a lesser extent, carby) then about an hour afterwards if I can I'll end up falling asleep/passing out. I had a couple of large chocolates while I was in Adelaide before going and lying in a park and reading; I came to with an old man in a wheelchair asking me if I was alright. This has happened before and I've mentioned it to my doctor and she basically said not to worry, but I'm not sure it's normal. It's not like I'm gorging on 400g of chocolate or anything like that; I guess 100g would be enough to do it. Any ideas?

How has your tolerance been affected? (none / 1) (#55)
by skyknight on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 07:29:53 AM EST

I would be curious to know how this diet has affected your capacity for processing large amounts of glucose when necessary. If you go to a birthday party and eat a piece of cake, are you even worse effected than you were back in your carbivorous days?

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Great success (2.00 / 1) (#57)
by hokie99cpe on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 08:15:01 AM EST

I also found great success following this sort of natural diet (paleo, neanderthin, caveman, whatever folks are calling it these days... ). I do have to admit though, that I fell a bit of the wagon following a move and the birth of a new youngin'. However, while I was living the life, I found that I could "hear" what my body was saying and feed it appropriately. At times, I craved high-fat meats and little else. At others, I wanted very little to do with meat, but seriously craved for fruits and veggies. The rest of the time it was a balance. But in any case, my body new better than I what it wanted and/or needed. Once I removed the junk - the noise - it became much easier to hear.

One thing you mention, studies showing the negative effects of fat when combined with high-carb diets, is something I think about often... latitude-based diets. At the northern and southern extremes, the animals are fattier and the plant-based carbs are virually non-existant. As you move toward the equator, the fat content of the animals tends toward lean while the availability of quality (i.e., natural and non-processed) carbs increases. Once in the tropical zone, the animals tend to be very lean and the tropical plants and fruits available offer a high-carb fare.

The important thing, more so than macronutrient ratios, is that you are eating a natural diet. Once you do that, the rest sort of falls into place. At least in my experience...

Applebees? Sugar in fast food? (2.00 / 2) (#64)
by thankyougustad on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 10:47:53 AM EST

No wonder your health sucked. At least now you can get your frozen grade D beef patties on a bed of romaine lettuce and still enjoy moderate health.

No no thanks no
Je n'aime que le bourbon
no no thanks no
c'est une affaire de goût.

So your saying (1.66 / 3) (#65)
by emohiphop on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 10:59:59 AM EST

That Baldrson is right ? Damn those race mixers

"People whose ancestors have been farming the longest have the fewest problems with diabetes and related complications. But modern transportation has made it possible for previously isolated populations to mix, and now all those nasty recessive traits evolution has been trying to eliminate for 10,000 years are coming back out. That's why it's an epidemic."

A few things (2.92 / 14) (#68)
by Sgt York on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 12:24:38 PM EST

To summarize, despite some gross generalizations, a few inaccuracies, and an excusable degree of hyperbole, you are on the right track.

if your levels ever go over 140 for any reason you have a serious problem
This is an example of hyperbole. You are not screwed if it ever goes this high. If someone does a real glucose tolerance test, it is not unlikely that it will go this high. However, your glucose should not get this high on a regular or even semi-regular basis. If this happens once a week, you have a problem. If it happens annually when you eat 3 helpings of pecan pie at Thanksgiving, it's not a big deal.
High triglicerides ("bad cholesterol")
Triacylglyercides are not cholesterol. I know this is how the medical profession presents it, but it is so wildly wrong that it irks me whenever I see it. Hell, it's not even wrong; they're called triacylglycerides.
The fat that lines your arteries to lay the groundwork for that heart attack in your future also isn't the fat you eat; triglicerides are the fat your body makes from the sugars and complex carbohydrates you eat. Normally your body wouldn't line your arteries with this stored energy, but normally your blood glucose levels aren't over 140 either.
This makes it sound like fat is made on the spot from carbohydrates. Vascular endothelium does not make fatty acids for export; the source is mobilization from stores (adipose), absorbtion and transportation from the gut and liver, and some synthesis in the liver and adipose tissue. The stuff lining your arteries actually gets there as the result of a very complex and not fully understood set of processes, and it's not just metabolic fats.
Normal cells are killed by their own mitochondria when they turn cancerous; cells that grow into tumors have malfunctioning mitochondria.
No, that is one part of one mechanism by which you can get cancer. Cancer is always the result of genetic changes. Some of those changes impact the mitochondria, some of those changes even take place in mitochondrial DNA, but the malfunctioning mitochondria are not sole the cause, or even part of the cause in many cases.
So while it's not known at all whether high glucose levels cause cells to turn renegade, it seems quite reasonable that they have an easier time survivinging and working their mayhem when high glucose levels are available.
High glucose most likely does not cause cells to go renegade. It may be possible, but it's very, very unlikely. However, you are correct when you say that high glucose makes it easier on them once they do go renegade. This is the most probable mechanism by which high glucose leads to cancer. Cancer is a disease of threshold. There are several mechanisms in place that keep cells from going rogue, and once enough of those mechanisms have been broken, the cells break free. One of the mechanisms is regulating how much food each cell gets; if there is infinite food (i.e., high glucose), one more barrier is down.
Some people become diabetic because their pancreatic beta cells are destroyed by an automimmune reaction when they're young
Maybe. This is debated. I'm sure you can find a dozen papers that say this is the case, but you can also find a dozen papers that say it's not the case or not necessarily the case. Nitpick, yah.
Insulin is an anabolic steroid.
grumblegrumblegrumble. Insulin is a growth factor. "Steroid" is a chemical classification. It is a small molecule with a certain arrangement of carbon rings, -OH, and -COOH groups. Insulin is protein, a gene product. It is one hell of a lot bigger than a steroid, and it operates in a completely different manner. Yes, insulin can have some of the same effects as some anabolic steroids in some tissues under some circumstances, but it is NOT an anabolic steroid. Not even close. Insulin has nowhere near the broad spectrum of effects at dose seen with anabolic steroids.
The reason is that your body maintains a delicate balance between anabolic processes (which build up flesh out of simple compounds) and catabolic processes (which break down tissue into its components). With all that extra anabolic activity going on, some other anabolic activity might be curtailed -- such as your sex drive or wound healing. Or your body might compensate by piling on some more catabolic activity to maintain the balance, generally building excess fat that makes you overweight and lines your arteries.
You've actually got the whole system screwed up, but you wind up OK. Insulin is VERY bad for you. Insulin therapy is a crude, last ditch effort to essentially save the life of the diabetic. Yes, it helps, but it helps in much the same way cardiac shock treatment helps a guy in ventricular tachycardia.

As for the overall, the problem is that people have overstressed their systems with an unhealthy lifestyle. The WebMD article is oversimplifying in the same manner you are; no, it's not high-calorie foods, it's high fast carbohydrate foods. Fast carbohydrates being anything that is almost immediately glucose after you eat it. Starch, refined sugar, etc. This causes a glucose bolus, which your pancreas has to deal with. Other systems in your body keep kind of a running tab of what is going on, measuring average and ranging glucose levels; the best understood of these systems is leptin; it would be a good starting point. Won the Nobel a while back IIRC, shouldn't be too hard to find.

In an oversimplified nutshell, what happens is that your pancreas looks at the absolute value of glucose in the blood and responds accordingly. Things like the leptin system compare that to the running average, and try to normalize the pancreas response in order to maintain the running average. They fight, and the pancreas loses. Now your internal meter is broken, like a scale tared to 100g instead of zero. Because many of these systems don't differentiate the source of the calories (much), there is crosstalk. Hence the failure of bacon/fried chicken/pork chop/hamburger diabetes prevention diet.

What you are now having to do is make your meter external to compensate for the busted internal one. You can reset the zero value on your meter with the touch of a button, and control your glucose by diet.

Someday, we might have the same kind of re-zeroing thing for the pancreas. We're getting there.

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks.

I'd be interested in learning... (none / 1) (#70)
by NoMoreNicksLeft on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 01:02:25 PM EST

Just what foods you find you can eat safely?

I feel like I constantly need to be eating sometimes, for days at end. I do my best to stay away from some carbs, but I do tend to eat alot of fruit. Strawberries are in season, for instance... and I'll eat a pound of the damn things at a time. I always figured this was better for me than eating potato chips and worse... but it makes it tough to keep the weight off just the same.

I've been trying to break that up lately, but celery and carrots starts to get really damn boring. And I'd go broke eating beef jerky ($20+ a pound?!?!).

Any suggestions?

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Pardon the Pun (none / 0) (#74)
by MarisPiper on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 01:47:18 PM EST

But it's truly food for thought for me as last time I saw my consultant, he decided he was gonna test me for diabetes and did the resting glucose blood test, mentioned above. Apparently I came up as being clear this time but what you say makes me think I should try to cut back my carbohydrates. I'd find it very difficult to cut them out entirely, though.

Thanks.
~~ A mostly lurking potato...

Is this the South Beach diet? (none / 0) (#78)
by nlscb on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 02:09:05 PM EST

Not that you lifted it, just that they probably go to the same conclusion via a different way.

A good article. I have been making a point in the last few years on keeping my carb intake to a minimum, though not cold turkey like you (I have to have a good Italian sub at least once in a while). One little surprise that I found was that the amount of rice served with asian and indian food is just ridiculous. I realized that I only needed about 1/4 of a cup mixed with my greasy fried meat vegetable dish to feel full. I get the feeling that even poor asians eat much smaller portions of rice, and have no trouble feeling full.

Are you still able to drink good scotch? I could give up booze, and I drink much less than I used to, but I wouldn't want to give it up completely.

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Are vegetarian hippies trying to kill us, then? (none / 1) (#80)
by nlscb on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 02:15:10 PM EST

Do they secretly represent the nazis trying to wipe us out?

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I tried a low-carb diet today (2.50 / 2) (#81)
by 4343 on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 02:15:57 PM EST

And despite not having an empty stomach, I feel fucking starved. Is this normal?

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STOP EATING BULLSHIT (none / 0) (#84)
by kbudha on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 02:20:16 PM EST

The short and sweet summary of your lengthy and oft times incorrect article.

dr. localroger (none / 0) (#91)
by SCORCHED zombie Private Papers on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 03:11:40 PM EST

i heal very fast. even my doctors think so. a wound, within days goes completely away.

however if i don't eat enough i get a migraine and have to have some sugar.

what is my prognosis?


Damn Roger, Nice Work (none / 1) (#95)
by QuantumFoam on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 03:23:50 PM EST

I've actually been suspicious I've been displaying the opening signs of diabetes, I'll look into this, too.

- Barack Obama: Because it will work this time. Honest!

Poop (none / 0) (#96)
by Noexit on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 03:27:53 PM EST

Not to be crass, crude or anything else, I have a genuine interest. I've been thinking about going onto this kind of an eating style for a while. It just seems more natural.

Do you have any digestive problems at all? Not just constipation or irregularity, but anything different? I'm sure it must be all work as well as before or you'd have mentioned it. Perhaps no change?

Great article - I've felt tingling (none / 0) (#112)
by walk on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 05:46:00 PM EST

after too much sugar, and, having diabetes on both sides of the family went to get checked. They only checked my resting blood sugar which was fine, but it doesn't explain the apparent neuropathy. I'm going to get a meter after all, and check as you've indicated. Thanks localroger, this is great info.
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"Walker, there is no road, the road is made by walking"
- Spanish poet Machado exiled by General Franco
Similar diet for IBS and Ankylosing Spondylitis (none / 0) (#115)
by vorfeed on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 06:58:07 PM EST

I started a similar diet for managing ankylosing spondylitis (reactive arthritis) a year ago, after reading about the relationship between AS & similar diseases and starch. It's a bit of a hassle when eating out, but I must say it has helped a lot with the pain, to the point where I don't need Advil most days (before the low-starch diet I had frequent trouble sleeping at night due to the pain). I do eat some sugar, though -- simple sugars don't bother me the way complex carbs do.

There's a book called The IBS Low-Starch Diet. Look into it if you have Irritable Bowel Syndrome, Crohn's disease, ankylosing spondylitis, Reiter's Syndrome, or other reactive stomach and/or joint problems. The diet doesn't seem to help everyone, but it's worth trying.

If you don't have these diseases, but you have mysterious joint or hip pain, ask your doctor about this! That goes double if you've also had eye infections -- AS causes both joint pain and iritis/uveitis.
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Great story (3.00 / 2) (#116)
by demi on Mon Apr 23, 2007 at 08:06:49 PM EST

Parts 1-7 are good and I think point to passive monitoring of vital signs as the future of preventative health care, and probably the only way human longevity will ever be significantly extended. Having a lifetime or near-lifetime record of heart rate, blood pressure, and blood constituent data, passively collected and stored by implanted devices, is gonna be the next big thing in consumer health. The amount of statistical data that could be collected by such means would vastly improve the quality of palliative diagnosis and treatment and nutritional science.

I now get my cholesterol and blood sugars checked a few times per year, but this requires drawing blood and using machines that cost a lot more than the home glucose kit. I don't get any kind of real-time idea of how those readings may fluctuate over hour, day, week, etc. periods as you have done on your own, though. What's needed is a multi-spectral tricorder like biometric device (DARPA had a program on this a few years ago) to track many simple effects at once and analyze short term trends. The technology to do this is not very far off. Rising popularity of sensor-guided heart rate training is a harbinger of how it might come about; first in elite athletic training, then trickling down. Except that the selling point will be longevity instead of building anaerobic capacity.

mg/dl vs. mmol/l (none / 0) (#123)
by gdanjo on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 01:39:03 AM EST

Great article. But it didn't really make sense to me until I found that 18 mg/dl = 1 mmol/l.

Here in Australia we use mmol/l, and we're advised that above 11 is bad, 4 is "normal", below 4 is not good, and 2 and below is hypoglycemic (I'm still amazed that hyperglycemic and hypoglycemic mean the exact opposite, and that this isn't a problem, even in this age of extreme accent diversity - context is key, I guess).

These approximately correlate with your 200 (11*18 = 198), 80 (4*18 = 72), 60 (3*18 = 54), and 40 (2*18 = 36) figures.

Beyond mere numbers, your advice is really helpful - and appreciated. I look forward to more of your over-analyzed insights (which I'll take over the under-analyzed any day of the week).

Dan ...
"Death - oh! fair and `guiling copesmate Death!
Be not a malais'd beggar; claim this bloody jester!"
-ToT

Your comment about fruit is extremely simplified (none / 0) (#125)
by tetsuwan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 05:06:44 AM EST

While fruit intake is consitently associated with better than average health, vitamin supplements rarely are. Also, fruits contain fibers.

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QUEUE ----> (none / 0) (#130)
by GhostOfTiber on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 10:38:42 AM EST

Or if I missed this, I apologize as work as been hectic recently.

I did Atkins for awhile, but I found it harder to concentrate and that caffiene and alcohol about doubled in potency.  It would come and go, but the concentration thing took a toll on my ability to work.

Also, possibly as an unintended side effect, on Atkins I also lost muscle mass.  I have no idea why this happened, as all gym wisdom would say that a high protien diet would result in GIANT MUSCLES.  But, as someone who enjoys shooting guns and working on cars, I found it was harder to keep a rifle pointed straight for offhand shooting and it was harder to turn wrenches.

What did you do to keep your muscle mass?

[Nimey's] wife's ass is my cocksheath. - undermyne

Don't forget the minerals (3.00 / 2) (#140)
by Rahyl on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 04:19:09 PM EST

Really good article, thanks for the post.  It seems more and more people are beginning to realze that they really can make a difference in their overall health by making sensible changes to their diets.

A few years ago I began taking inventory on my own diet and noticed a few things.  First, my protein intake was too low.  Second, my carb intake was too high (for many of the same reasons sited in the article).  Third, my mineral intake was woefully inadequate.  The first two were easy to manage as I simply increased what I was already eating that had protein and decreased existing sources of carbs.  Minerals, however, were a different story.  With the exception of iron and calcium, I simply had no mineral intake to speak of.

To fix this, I began to include nuts and seeds in my diet daily.  As a general rule, a mixture of nuts and seeds will be high in minerals like manganese, magnesium, phosphorus, and copper.  You'll likely also see iron, calcium, and others.  You'll also get a good dose of protein and fiber.  Eat them raw by the handful or in salads, a great way to get the 'good' fats in your diet.  After about a year of this, I began to notice a lot of positive changes, mainly that my attitude in general had improved.  I was motivated to start working out again and lost 10 lbs in the process (down to 150 now).

For more info that would be welcome in a post here, check out http://whfoods.com/  (I'm in no way affiliated with the site, just use it for nutrition info on various foods).

science detail (none / 0) (#147)
by Rhodes on Tue Apr 24, 2007 at 08:38:51 PM EST

when you are describing the blood tests, you say "accuracy is not important ... if it spikes above 140, it doesn't matter whether it is to three decimal places".  

Actually, the principle you refer to is precision - do you have nanometer precision, versus accuracy- are you looking at the proper item.

Bravo! A little more... (2.33 / 3) (#149)
by CAIMLAS on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 05:07:24 AM EST

There was a guy who, about a century ago, did a study of various tribal (hunter/gatherer) societies throughout the world in comparison to the Western world. He was a dentist. He found that, without exception, that these hunter/gatherer groups were better nourished and had an almost non-existent level of dental cavities.

I've also read that when the settlers first started coming to America, up through the 1800s, the white man was often amazed at how hardy, healthy, and virile natives were. One thing which springs to mind is that they, unlike the white man, could take several musket shots to their torso and still run, fight, and ultimately survive their wounds - likely due to their overall superior health, thereby allowing their body a superior amount of energy to its repair. It's also probably related to the healthy, well-defined facial features which are (at best) uncommon in today's society (and particularly uncommon in those who are overweight and eat a lot of grains).

On a personal note, I was told about a year back that I have high blood pressure, or high blood sugar, or something like that. I, foolishly, disregarded it, thinking "hey, I'm not even 25 yet, and I'm as skinny as a rail". But now thanks to a combination of your write-up, and my hypocritical eating behavior (due to the knowledge I have on the matter), and a recent bout of sluggishness and irritability, I'm going to pursue this approach to eating.

It's going to be difficult, to be sure, but I have no doubt that the end result will be beneficial and enjoyable. First things first: gotta cut out the processed sugars, particularly soda and snack foods. I'll likely have to go off sugars in general gradually, first going to watered-down fruit juice and fruits, simply because I consume a copious amount of sugar in a given day (a soda or two, sugar in my coffee, breakfast cereal, bread with lunch, a starch or two with dinner, and snacks).

Eat to live, not live to eat, eh? Maybe I'll learn how to make cheese - I do love it so. You wouldn't happen to have figured out an alternative to crackers, would you? :P

One question I have for you is: how does your eating style differ in terms of financial investment? The reason I ask is because living on a diet of meat - good meat, not just rump roasts and turkeys - is substantially more expensive than living off of bread. Unfortunately, the cost of grains in relation to meat is one of the things which makes it so appealing, and why corn or what is an additive to damn near any processed food you can find on the shelves.
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Europe vs. America (3.00 / 2) (#165)
by noseyscholar on Wed Apr 25, 2007 at 01:39:19 PM EST

I've noticed that the foods in Europe tend to be much less sugary. For example, the bread in America seems to be much sweeter than out here. There are numerous examples. We eat olives as a snack. I'm just wondering whether this makes any kind of difference.

Also, you seem to say we shouldn't eat any bread altogether. It seems like a modest cutback in carbs from an early age (ie don't subsist on potato chips, fries, and white bread) would make a considerable difference. I wonder if this is so...

Interesting story, however, it sucks that it's written from the perspective of someone who's already there. I'm young enough to think I'm not there yet, and damnit, it sounds terrible!

fruits (none / 1) (#195)
by Sun Showers on Sat Apr 28, 2007 at 02:39:05 AM EST

Good article, I hope it promotes reader awareness of this issue. Also, it is easier to maintain rather than restore health.

Don't be too quick to dismiss fruits from your diet; they've got quite a few antioxidants (so do leafy greens).

I would also be wary of increasing fat intake due to concerns of accumulating lipid soluble toxins from the environment (hormone disruptors, etc) which may take years to excrete, if at all.

Another benefit to reducing high glycemic food intake is that you're consuming less heavily processed foods along with their additives and preservatives.

cholesterol (none / 0) (#198)
by drivers on Mon Apr 30, 2007 at 01:27:24 AM EST

I'd love to know what your cholesterol level is. That is my first concern when I read about your diet. You said you haven't had it checked, but assume it's fine.

Exercise in a pill soon? (none / 0) (#199)
by walk on Mon Apr 30, 2007 at 06:12:02 AM EST

here.

Figure out who'll commercialize it and buy stock now.
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"Walker, there is no road, the road is made by walking"
- Spanish poet Machado exiled by General Franco

belated thanks (none / 1) (#204)
by zenofchai on Tue May 08, 2007 at 11:19:01 AM EST

for an excellent article.
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This is just brilliant (none / 0) (#205)
by nebbish on Wed May 09, 2007 at 08:42:34 AM EST

Who said K5 was dead?

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Getting old. (none / 1) (#206)
by Dev X on Fri May 11, 2007 at 12:40:38 AM EST

And to much "sugar" in your diet. That's all it is you ass. So STFU.

Eventualy just about everyone who should be concerned knows the diferance between a healthy diet and an unlhealthy one. High sugar diet bad, we know.

   
Lost in Unlasting Infinity.

The Great Modern Glucose Poisoning Epidemic (none / 0) (#209)
by babycakes on Thu May 24, 2007 at 02:40:33 PM EST

Hi. The diet mentioned is what 2 doctors , basically, have told me to go on, but, did not explain why. I am hypoglycemic.
When a doctor does not tell me WHY they say what they do, I am disinclined to follow their instructions. They act like gods, who have no reason to explain themselves, and expect immediate full-blown obedience to their sacred words.
In other cases of health, they have often been SO wrong, even to the point of causing death to some, even in my family. Thusly, I take everything they say with a pound of salt (and rarely take the medication given me, unless it is nessicary, like anti-biotics for pnemonia.).
    Now, from this article, I see that their prescribed diet for myself is, in fact, good.
Thank you, to whomever wrote it.
What is the biggest problem?---NOT diet, but the egos of most medical doctors !

List of studies on When Beta Cells Die (none / 0) (#210)
by walk on Fri Jun 01, 2007 at 03:19:56 AM EST

This page contains summaries of and links to, papers on specifics. One study says that 100 (American) is high enough for beta cells to start dying.
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"Walker, there is no road, the road is made by walking"
- Spanish poet Machado exiled by General Franco
ADA 04-2007 stats and recs for pre-diabetes (none / 0) (#211)
by walk on Fri Jun 01, 2007 at 03:24:38 AM EST

ADA Consensus Statement on IFG and IGT - short, readable pdf.

Turns out there are two separate forms of pre-diabetes with different causes.
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"Walker, there is no road, the road is made by walking"
- Spanish poet Machado exiled by General Franco

You're not alone... (none / 0) (#219)
by jalind on Mon Aug 13, 2007 at 12:08:08 PM EST

My condition got discovered through the intervention of a Type II friend who did a similar "poor mans" glucose tolerance experiment with me for a couple of days.  He recognized the symptoms and finally got me to do the experiment.  I had always passed a fasting test and would not have discovered the condition otherwise.  I believe I owe him my life.  Thanks Steve!

I was continuously traveling on business at the time and got seen by a doctor within a couple of days.  I was officially diagnosed on the spot.  

There was a significant period of stoney silence from the other end of the phone 1500 miles away when I told my wife the "good" news that I had Type II and, that with it, I had acquired a $150 a month glucose testing habit ($1/test, 5 tests/day, 30 days/month).  

Initially, the doctor didn't agree to a really agressive testing and diet control.  He threatened to put me on drugs.  I balked and went ahead with the agressive testing and diet anyway.  After the doctor saw the charts, graphs and results I produced from it, he agreed to continue with agressive testing and diet.  He was amazed that I was able to keep up the testing regime and stick to the diet.

It seems the common medical profession's expectation is that it's really difficult to get diabetics to change diet, exercise or test themselves frequently.  My experience is that there is a strong tendency to depend on drugs and go for the lowest common denominator of what they think diabetics will actually do.  Gee, thanks!

In addition to the immediate radical diet change nearly identical to what you did, continuous frequent testing is one of the best things I started.  It has enabled me to figure out what I can eat and when and how my body behaves with food.  

In addition to having all the experiences you wrote about, I discovered that I am now a huge marketing target with a 40ft bullseye attached to my back.  Every commercial entity that makes money from diabetics acts like they don't care whether or not I get better.  Instead, they behave like they want me to become exclusively dependent on their wares in exchange for some nebulous maintenance or improvement in health. I don't expect any real help from commercially driven entities unless it advances their commercial aims.

Periodically, the major drug store chains put one or more glucose meters on sale for $10 to $20.  Typically, they include a few test strips (10) and have very well written instructions and phone numbers to call for assistance.  

For anyone that doubts any of your experiences, all I can say is that you're not alone and they're others of us that had a nearly identical experience.  Your article was like looking in a mirror.  Thanks for expressing it so well.

Excellent article! Found more relevant info... (none / 0) (#220)
by makarus on Tue Oct 30, 2007 at 01:16:46 PM EST

I must say this article, when I read it some months ago, really opened my eyes, and allowed me to start questioning the existing assumptions on what types of foods cause obesity, diabetes, heart disease etc.. I really liked the fact that you make it something everyone can try out, and figure out for their own body, rather than rely on dogmatic hypothesis that I usually don't bother to verify (and most of the times, neither do the writers).

I recently noticed that a book was published putting into question the low-fat diets, and the effects of carbohydrates in our diets. I am still reading this book, but there are many points so far that match what you have written about blood sugar and how it might cause heart disease, obesity, diabetes, etc.

The book is Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. So far the book is excellent, and is quite scientific in its explanations (eventually it gets more detailed). Its controversial, but also very detailed and careful not make quick conclusion as to how and why these dieseases occur.

Anyways, thanks for sharing this.

health issues (none / 0) (#221)
by seagull11 on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 08:39:24 AM EST

Here are some important links about health issues:
High cholesterol
Drug development


A few notes (none / 0) (#222)
by ilai on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 11:47:03 AM EST

Insulin resistance that leads to Type II Diabetes is often merely caused by increased weight gain. An increased amount of adipose tissue secretes an increased amount of hormones like Leptin, an appetite suppressant. People who are naturally resistant to leptin (and there are a lot of them) will have high circulating levels of it, but their appetite will not be suppressed. Leptin acts as an insulin inhibitor, increasing insulin resistance. Losing weight by changing your lifestyle, not dieting, will often decrease insulin resistance. changing your lifestyle by crash dieting or yoyo dieting will strain the metabolic system and it will adapt by learning to overcompensate. A goal should be moderate exercise to burn visceral/abdominal fat so less hormones and released into the system. Some of these same hormones also increase your estrogen levels and angiotensin levels (increasing blood pressure).

Low carb diets very often work for some people with syndrome X / metabolic syndrome because a common symptom is liver disorder which converts sugar directly to fat instead of to carbohydrates, causing increased weight gain.

Having muscle fitness is imperative to having metabolic fitness. The body burns carbohydrates in the muscles for the energy to move, (or the body can burn fat or protein for that same energy. Using fat for energy isn't so bad, using protein for energy is definitely not in your best interest). Activity helps to regulate the glucose / insulin system as much if more than diet. Exercise 20 minutes a day.

Diets high in saturated fats increase LDL and HDL cholesterol levels. You say you haven't gotten your cholesterol checked, and I would if you are replacing all your food with meat. This diet would work with monounsaturated or polyunsaturated fats too.

I don't disagree that low carb diets will help you lose weight, nor that losing weight will lower insulin resistance. I just think there are better ways to skin the cat - like exercising. MOVE THE BODY YOU ARE IN. Also - fruit won't hurt you if you moderate your eating behavior. Have a tunafish sandwich on whole grain bread and an apple for lunch.

**Its not about removing everything from your diet that will have a violent reaction by your blood sugar, its by solving the problem that causes your cells to be resistant to insulin. While this diet will help you, I recommend at least looking into a lifestyle plan that includes variety, balance, correct portion size and MOVEMENT.

Magnesium - have some of it. Its an important factor in glucose regulation. It comes from chlorophyll. Eat more plants.

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