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The Spoils of Wort: It Won't Stop Fermenting

By GhostOfTiber in GhostOfTiber's Diary
Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 11:17:11 AM EST
Tags: Brewing, Beer, Brew, Hops, Wort, Fermenting (all tags)

I brew a lot.

It's not because I'm an alcoholic but rather because I like beer like people like wine.  I can taste a beer and tell you whats in it.  I can probably brew it with a combination of malt extract and specialty grains.  I haven't made the all grain jump yet but it's merely because I don't have the cash for the equipment.

Almost two weeks ago I set out to clone Mad Elf.  I bought a case of it and I personally really like it, but I realize I am a beer-snob at this point and won't drink just any piss.  The two biggest complaints about it were "the aftertaste" (typical Belgian Triple taste) and the fact that it's a bit dry.


I think the dryness is really what makes Mad Elf worth drinking.  There's fruit in it - cherries - and the Triple-style yeast adds banana flavors.  There is a clove in it and some cinnamon for warmth.  You can't actually taste the cinnamon or clove, but they are there in the form of a spicyness in the body and a bit of heat in the belly.  To sum it up:  Troegs really knocked this one out of the ballpark with the balance between the dry fruit and wetter malts.  I highly suggest tossing it in the fridge and lagering it to prevent the fruit from being completely lost.

My beer is simpler.
Grain:  Steep 1 hour

  •  3 lbs Pale Dry Malt Extract
  •  3 lbs Dry Wheat Extract
  •  .5 lbs Chocolate malt
  •  .5 lbs Cara-pils
  •  .5 lbs crystal (if you don't have any of these you can skip it, it's only in there for body)

Hops:
  •  .5 oz Willamette hops (60 m)
  •  .5 oz Tettenhang hops (15 m)

Other:
  •  2 cans of Juicy Juice Cherry (be sure to get the cans as canned goods have no preservatives)
  •  Run the water through a brita or similar charcoal filter.  Hard water will kill the beer.
  •  Use a wheat yeast

I've found if you just tap the button on a coffee grinder a few times, it gives you a fine-grind on the bottom and a coarse grind on the top.  I've given up using bags to steep my grain bill and just heat water up to barely boiling, turn the heat off, and dump the grain in there once things drop to 155F.  I have a mesh strainer and I dump the wort through into a sterile bucket.  Once I get the pot cleaned out, I dump the wort back into the pot and bring to a boil.  Once the water is boiling, I add the dry malt extract and start the 1 hour timer.  

Fermentation:
Fermented like a banshee within a day of putting it in the bucket.  I thought I was going to lose the airlock, there was almost a whistle.  Original gravity turned out to be 1.070 which is perfect for a Big Brew.

It's been 11 days now, and the airlock has stopped bubbling as of two days ago.  On the other hand, I cracked open the top and took a hydrometer reading.  The beer is now 1.010 and there is still yeast on the top.  From the looks of the stain on the bucket, the krausening made it almost to the airlock.  The top of the beer not only has yeast on it, but the top of the fermenter is still noticeably warm.

If the beer does not settle in two weeks, I will probably transfer it to a secondary fermenter.

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Tiber should...
o leave it in the primary fermenter 25%
o transfer it to the secondary 62%
o bottle it and pray the bottles don't explode 12%

Votes: 8
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The Spoils of Wort: It Won't Stop Fermenting | 26 comments (26 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Fructose (3.00 / 2) (#1)
by Sgt York on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 11:30:22 AM EST

Beers made with fruit juice do that sometimes. The yeast eat the hell out of the fructose during the first few days, yielding little change in gravity but a lot of action. After that's gone, the yeast go to work on the more complex sugars from your mash, and gravity starts to go down. Then it settles down to a more normal fermentation.

I'd suggest racking it to secondary right away; you don't want it sitting on the yeast sediment for too long, especially that much yeast sediment.

BTW, sounds like a good brew. Little on the sweet side for my taste, but that could be effectively balanced by the smokiness of the chocolate malt.

There is a reason for everything. Sometimes, that reason just sucks.

Could be an infection (none / 1) (#3)
by MrHanky on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 12:18:25 PM EST

To quote How to Brew: [T]he sustained bubbling is often due to "gusher type" infection. These infections can occur at any time and are due to wild yeasts or bacteria that eat the higher order sugars, like dextrins. The result in the fermentor is a beer that keeps bubbling until all of the carbohydrates are fermented, leaving a beer that has no body and very little taste.

If it doesn't stop soon, it probably won't be a very good beer, since all the sugars will be gone. I'm only guessing, but I think that with all the fructose turning to alcohol, the FG can probably dip a bit below 10, so I wouldn't worry just yet. How does it smell?


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drop a squirrel in it (3.00 / 3) (#5)
by actmodern on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 12:44:22 PM EST

i'm sure you can hunt some down with your m16


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I dont think you have an issue (none / 0) (#6)
by Altus on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 12:59:57 PM EST


But I don think racking to a secondary is a good idea.  I find I get a more complete fermentation out of my beers (well, ones that tend to keep fermenting a while anyway) if I do a secondary ferment.

Im kind of surprised that you have abandoned grain bags.  I find them to be in disposable ... literally, I have a couple of reusable grain bags.  One has a nice elastic top that you can wrap around the top of the brew pot to hold it up.  I did give up on the disposable cheesecloth bags but I found straining to be too much of a pain in the ass to ditch grain bags entirely.

Obviously you have to wash them very thoroughly after each use, but its not that bad.

"In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson

Cider (none / 1) (#9)
by rusty on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 03:03:28 PM EST

Since we're on the subject -- my cider's nearly done fermenting. One batch is just a wee tiny bit above 1.000 (the batch with the honey in it) and is dry as hell and pretty rough, flavor-wise. That one's gonna need a good long aging to smooth it out. I have my hopes for it though.

The other one, which I didn't do anything fancy to, has more or less stopped fermenting at 1.014, and it's pretty damn good. I don't know why, but there's a lot of residual sweetness left. I suspect it was the half-ass way I woke up the yeastfor this one. It always fermented slower than the other batch. I will probably bottle that pretty soon with a little charging sugar and hope it keeps the sweetness. And in future ciders I'm probably going to pitch dry yeast directly into the cold juice. I'm very happy with how this one went.

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the only beer my friends and I (none / 0) (#21)
by oilmoat on Fri Jan 12, 2007 at 10:18:13 PM EST

screwed up was one with fruit in it. We were zymurgy newbs, tho.

But seems like you guys are all on your game a bit more. Seems like a great time to be brewing.

I have IBPND. (I believe in people, not disorders.)

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