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An operant analysis of the zen buddhist conception of "thinking"

By 1419 in 1419's Diary
Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 08:16:29 AM EST
Tags: zen buddhism, behavior analysis, thinking, b.f.skinner (all tags)

Zen posits that thoughts arise and we should strive for non-attachment to them. But what does this mean?
Behavior Analytic/Radical Behaviorist analysis ensues.


I remember calling through the phone book for listings under
"Meditation" when I was a teenager. The first person who answered told
me about Transcendental Meditation. I asked about it and they
mentioned I needed to bring fruit, a handkerchief and a small
donation. Hmm. I was not inclined to donate if I didn't have to. I
kept calling.

I got to a listing for a Zen Center and spoke to someone who told me
about their meditation schedule. It was at 5 in the morning typically,
but I should come on down on a Saturday morning around 10am and they'd
give me a walk through.

"How much is it?" I asked.

"It's free!" he said.

Free was the price I could pay. So I hopped on my motorcycle (a Yamaha
650XS circa 1972) and found myself there.

Over the course of many years of on again and off again ventures into
the world of zen buddhism (first Rinzai and then later Soto) I was
introducted the idea of "thoughts" or "thinking" and the correct
response or attitude towards them.

It goes something like this.

In meditation you are to sit and observe your breathing. You are to
keep your eyes open and look forward and slightly down. You aren't to
focus on anything. You simply breath and let the world in. Thoughts
will occur to you but you aren't to cling to them.

This idea of buddhist non-attachment occurs in many places, but this
is one of them. You aren't to be attached to your thoughts. But what
is "attachment"?

As a teenager I was aware of the teachings of the psychologist
B.F.Skinner. I was aware that he broke with Methodological Behaviorism
insofar as he recognized thinking as a phenomenon worthy of study (the
M.B.'s didn't). He broke with Watsonian "reflex" psychology in that he
didn't see it as sub-vocal speech, or reflexive in nature either.

It wasn't until years later that Skinner's conception of operant
behavior and the zen buddhist conception of "thinking without
attachment" became to sort of blend into each other.

Skinner speaks of ourselves as "listeners". We can act as our own
audience he says.

Buddhism says that we have thoughts, but we aren't to engage in them.
In a way, we are to listen, but not respond.

Skinner says that covert verbal behavior ("thinking") obeys the laws
of operant conditioning. The four-term operant analysis includes a
discriminative stimulus - which indicates an occasion for
reinforcement - and a response - which is controlled by its
consequences.

Buddhism says we think without control over that thought. Thoughts
come to us "unbidden". We can then choose to engage these thoughts or
not. We might think about how we need to go shopping (an unbidden
thought) but then make a shopping list (a response). Buddhism says we
can't stop the thought that we need to go shopping. We can, or should,
control making a shopping list.

Skinner's analysis says that the Sd "sets an occasion" for
reinforcement. This causes us to emit strong responses in the presence
of the Sd. The Sd doesn't control behavior in the sense of
reinforcement, but it does control it as an occasion might control it.

We can't control thinking in the sense of "unbidden thought". These
are thoughts as discriminative stimuli. We, as the observer or
audience or listener, have these thoughts come to us in an almost
unpredictable fashion. While we read, watch television, drive, make
love, thoughts come to us - and not always appropriately.

Thus, to use the operant analysis for zen, we have two selves. One
self is more or less uncontrolled. It generates thoughts almost at
random, under very subtle, and perhaps highly generalized
reinforcement. These thoughts are discriminative occasions for
successful compositional thinking.

A second self, "a listening self", responds to these thoughts and can
emit responses. These responses can be managed in the Skinnerian sense
of self-control (a controlling and controlled response set). In Zen
Buddhism the practice that is to control thinking is to use motoric or
non-"verbal" thinking by focusing on the breathing. Alternately there
is Koan practice. Koans operate on the same principle. By creating an
unsolvable puzzle you emit a large volume of unreinforced responses
towards the Koan and thus achieve a state of verbal extinction in the
listener.

Zen practice is typically done in the morning. Five fifteen or so
finds many monks groggily attempting their zazen. "When the body is
tired the discriminating consciousness is tired." I recall hearing at
one lecture. Since the goal is to exhaust the response set through
Koan practice or in an "empty mind" through non-issuance of responses
this makes sense.

Dreaming, as a sort of response class where our dreams - weak stimuli
from our experiences jumbled together combined with our cover
responding - act much like the kind of discriminating consciousness we
are trying to avoid. The Zen monk or resident is cutting short the
nights dream sleep to engage in more systematic non-responding. Why
become caught up in your dreams if you don't want to be caught up in
your waking thoughts?

The processes of discrimination, extinction and so on are detailed
elsewhere and I won't go into them here. Extinction is, in terms of
emotions, a rather unpleasant process. This would account for some
reactions of crying and becoming quite upset which I've heard about in
the Zen meditation process.

Zen meditation doesn't exclusively rest on extinction though. There is
a practice of "incompatible responding" which is encompassed in
focusing on breathing.

While eating meals at one Zen center several tables were segregated
for those who didn't want to talk while eating. One resident told me
about her silence practice where she wouldn't talk for days.

Vows of silence in monks in the Christian tradition must serve the
same purpose. If you talk you risk being reinforced for what you say
and thus have it come back to revisit you while you are praying,
meditating and so on.

I've noticed that I will have my own conversations - either me or the
other persons speech - played back to me while I am doing something
like walking and so on. I can only assume that the adventitious
reinforcement provided in a conversation make for the weaker response
echoes while I am thinking. Thus "their voice" which I hear in my head
actually represents "my listening response" which is then "re-emitted"
when I am alone.  This leads to the subtle (solipsistic?
phenomonelogical?) position of having the universe being played to you
as your act of responding towards it. Although this would account for
the concept of "listening". We typically don't "listen" to more than
one person at a time, and this might be the problem of the capacity of
our covert listening responses.

However, I did know someone who was, through practice, able to listen
to several conversations at once (it was rather annoying, but an
interesting trick).

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An operant analysis of the zen buddhist conception of "thinking" | 26 comments (26 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
Damn! you write more than I do! (3.00 / 2) (#1)
by mybostinks on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 09:51:24 AM EST

I wanna see a FP story from you soon..hahaha...well after NaNo that is.

but zen and Skinner (none / 1) (#3)
by minerboy on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 10:00:05 AM EST

Have both been shown to be essentially wrong. Zen has had no real impact on society, and Skinners theories are no longer used much in modern psychology. If you want real impact, look at protestantism.



wow very interesting .. i love to hear about (none / 1) (#6)
by dakini on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 10:54:31 AM EST

Skinner and Zen..these are most interesting..i took an interest in Skinner in college years ago, and i do agree with him..and Zen i have mainly learned more about it the past three or four years..yeah, stories on these subjects are great as they are most interesting to me and i would love to see more of them..

" May your vision be clear, your heart strong, and may you always follow your dreams."
There was this retard on the train yesterday (3.00 / 2) (#8)
by j1mmy on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 12:23:47 PM EST

who would not shut up about Bhuddism. He had a really oddly-shaped head.

I don't use meditation for that purpose (none / 1) (#9)
by MMcP on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 06:06:59 PM EST

You could almost call me lapsed.  I use meditation lat at night to:

1)  Cure insomnia

2)  Lessen fidgeting

I find that thinking or talking about meditation is about a valuable as philosophizing about brushing your teeth.  You can talk about technique and forms, but everything else is masturbation.  

my bot listens (none / 1) (#11)
by trane on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 09:05:19 PM EST

to conversations and tries to glean information that way.

i'm just so glad you didn't (none / 1) (#12)
by wampswillion on Mon Nov 06, 2006 at 09:58:24 PM EST

mention at&t.   because they suck even worse than skinner and zen buddhism put together.  

How very thought-provoking. (none / 1) (#16)
by Entendre Entendre on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 06:25:51 AM EST

No really, I'd give this a 3 if we still had the diary rating system.

--
Reduce firearm violence: aim carefully.

Inter resting (none / 1) (#19)
by levesque on Tue Nov 07, 2006 at 09:18:41 PM EST

A lot rang

I'm not clear, but I think there is a lot

So I cut, pasted, edited and inserted

listening self", responds to these thoughts and can
emit responses

Hearing but not responding, as to

Extinction is, in terms of emotions, a rather unpleasant process

We can ... control thinking in the sense of "unbidden thought"

Buddhism says we think without control over that thought. Thoughts
come to us "unbidden"

Some are herence some are not

Buddhism says that we have thoughts, but we aren't to engage in them.
In a way, we are to listen, but not respond.

but responce

You simply breath and let the world in. Thoughts
will occur to you but you are not involved in "the clinging ones"

Extinction is, in terms of emotions, a rather unfolding process

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