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Remembering the BBS Scene

By kpaul in MLP
Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 03:41:02 PM EST
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Ah, those were the days. As now, it was a healthy mix of academics, techies, conspiracy theorists and trolls. Jason Scott has a great website chock full of old BBS textfiles, with no advertising. What does his collection include? Well, it's a lot like K5 if you ask me, but maybe a little more naive.

There are some ugly things down in these archives; there are narcissistic ravings from pre-adolescent social misfits. There are calls for anarchy. There's satanism, there's racism, there's all the -isms in the book lurking in the words. But there's hope, too. There's excitement, there's joy, there's every manner of feeling being crammed down into ASCII and posted for the world to find. It's a spectrum of humanity, and this is what I hope you'll find, buried there, among the text. Enjoy.

Jason Scott
Proprietor, TEXTFILES.COM


Jason Scott's top 100

Some of the files in this section go back to 1982 (when the users cried that the death of the BBS was at hand.) Ten years later, though, and they were still around and talking about things like the joy of handles (as in usernames.)

Some of you may be too young to remember, but before P2P, the BBS world had its own warez underground (Apple Warez site circa 1984.) Also in 1984, you could get textfiles with details of basic telecommunications.

Even better, in 1986, Anarchy Inc. published the B00G and the art of ZEN textfile. What's that, you ask? Well, I have two theories. First, it could be a mistake like invading Iraq instead of Iran because of one letter changing - was a b00g a baby trying to say blog? Ok, no, that's not it. I think it's an early troll attempt at ROR or the !!!11one phenomenon.

Some of the stuff isn't dated, but is still classic, like the drunken rant on being elite in the BBS world. Feh. Like K5, you could find gems on the BBSs. They also had horrible fiction by characters such as Captain Goodnight. Are you lucky enough to remember mr. pez?

Anarchy Files

The Anarchy Section contains textfiles on explosives and general mayhem. (Do Not Try This at Home.) It has real Americans making H-Bombs in their basements, a primitive bugmenot.com, and last but not least, the anarchy trolls.

ASCII Art

K5 ASCII reenactment players, wherefore art thou? You would really dig the ASCII section. From pr0n to cows to smileys - textfile creators were really into ASCII art.

BBS Tech Texts

The BBS Section has a large collection of textfiles on running a BBS system. Wildcat was a familiar term. The BBS 30 Commandments is kinda interesting. I had to smile at the State of the BBS circa 1986. Heh. You can see Dvorak pre-slashdot. Still relevant today, Voices from the WELL: The Logic of the Virtual Commons.

Computers

The Computers Section is tech from the trenches in the early days. You could learn about modems, UNIX, copy protection, hard disks, and much more. The geek to non-geek ratio was vastly different in the early days.

Conspiracy

The Conspiracy Section is as kooky as the conpiracy theorists of today. The secret concentration camps meme is still going strong today. Going in the other direction, someone transcribed the truth about Mars from 1956. You can go even further back in time with the chronology of secret societies.

Drugs

In the Drugs Section you can take the LSD Survey and then pass it on to your friends. An official report on MDMA (aka ecstasy) was passed around starting in the late 80s. If you weren't into those types of drugs, you could settle for a beer pizza or learn about the stoner survival kit.

Fiction

The Stories and Fiction Section has a lot of bad writing. And some good writing. Which does A Smart Bomb with a Language Parser belong to? I'll let you decide. Beyond user written fiction, a lot of fable textfiles exist. Garr.

Food

The Food Section has a lot of recipes and articles on food. Hungry? How about Better than Sex Cake? If you're into more primitive methods of getting food, killing chickens might interest you. I'm not sure if this is the real Coke recipe and I'm not sure I would try making it.

Games

In the Games Section, a lot of the general textfiles seem to be from the 90s. I didn't know the early 80s Atari could be so complicated. I must admit, before textfiles.com, I hadn't given much thought to arcade cheats.

Magazines

Ah, the glory days of text e-zines in the Magazines Section. Yeah, you've probably heard of Phrack, but what about CUD, the Computer Underground Digest? Surely you've heard of HOE. What about TANJ, which started in 1988. And who can forget print zines, the DIY blogs of yesteryear.

Phreaking

The Phreaking Section has stuff on cell phones in 94, a lot of info on various boxes (you know, like what the Apple founders sold out of their garage in the early days.) Is phreaking dead? Whatever the answer, you can still read the history of phreaking and relive the good old days.

Politics

Oh, yes, they have a Politics Section. And yes, they have an Iraqi menace textfile. Also, Quayle (remember him?), Bush, and a personal favorite of mine, that too often forgotten document, the U.S. Constitution. I'm not sure why, but the name Ingersoll sounds familiar. Anyone?

BBS Life Remembered

Ok, that's enough mindlessness for the moment. There are literally tens of thousands of other files at the textfiles.com website. The Good Old Days of BBSing will be missed. I wouldn't trade it for the world wide web of today, but it's nice sometimes to think back and remember all the events on the BBS timeline.

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Remembering the BBS Scene | 74 comments (56 topical, 18 editorial, 0 hidden)
BBS E-mail (2.00 / 3) (#2)
by wiredog on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 08:14:30 AM EST

What was it called, FidoNet? Something like that. You'd send an e-mail from the bbs you were logged onto and, once a day or so, it would call up other BBSs and exchange mail with them. Of course, you had to know the route to the recipient, and it could take a couple of days to get there.

A good look at the tail end of the BBS scene (the easy availability of the Internet killed it) can be found in The Hacker Crackdown by Bruce Sterling.

Wilford Brimley scares my chickens.
Phil the Canuck

remembering the bbs scence. great. (2.40 / 5) (#3)
by little lord on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 10:42:46 AM EST

but why?

because it birthed ridiculous technolibertarian and a failed hacker subculture that couldn't even prevent the dmca?

if you ask me (and i know you don't) it was nothing more than a bunch of spoilt kids pissing away their parents' money on the phone (or carding).

hasn't this been done to death? (1.66 / 3) (#8)
by thekubrix on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 02:03:47 PM EST

Especially on slashdot,.....uggh

I remember the BBS scene fondly, but mostly (3.00 / 2) (#14)
by cburke on Fri Apr 01, 2005 at 08:22:06 PM EST

I remember that the BBS was obsoleted entirely as a concept the very second that you aquired Internet access.

I co-administered a BBS at my high school, and spent a lot of time working and playing on it (and playing on other BBS).  The day said high school got an internet connection to the local university the BBS was abandoned.  I don't think any of us logged on again.  There was nothing you could do with the BBS that you couldn't do a thousand times better on the net.  It was what the BBS always wanted to be, and there was no going back.

Nostalgia is great and all, but this basically boils down to "Remember when talking to maybe forty people in your local calling area -- not in realtime since few BBS had very many lines -- at 1200 baud seemed awesome?"

What I miss about the BBS scene... (3.00 / 4) (#28)
by givemegmail111 on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 12:53:23 AM EST

...was the fact that it seemed so much more like a real community than anything I've found on the internet. It was smaller and everyone knew each other, and everything was local, so it was easy to get together with people you met online. For those of us unpopular at school (and what high school BBS patron wasn't?) the BBS was a way to be social. Sure there are online communities on the internet today, but they are mostly specialized communities with a widespread userbase, meaning there's no easy way to get together in person. Talking to people online is okay, but the real good times are meeting and going bowling with those people. There are online communities devoted to geographical locations, but it's not at all the same kind of crowd that frequented BBS's.

It's been almost 10 years since I called my last BBS, and I've never found anything on the internet that quite matched up. Sure the internet is good for finding porn to match your particular fetish, or meeting people more devoted to your particular interests than you could possibly imagine, but it's really missing the heart that the BBS scene had.

Or maybe I'm just still bitter that every idiot and his grandmother is online anymore.

--
McDonalds: i'm lovin' it
Start your day tastefully with a Sausage, Egg & Cheese McGriddle, only at McDonalds.
Rusty fix my sig, dammit!

nostalg-1a (1.00 / 5) (#35)
by ant0n on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 11:46:54 AM EST


-- Does the shortest thing the tallest pyramid's support supports support anything green?
Patrick H. Winston, Artificial Intelligence
Do you remember the 80s? (none / 0) (#38)
by pestilence on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 02:01:11 PM EST




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BBS scene and subcultures (2.50 / 2) (#39)
by strlen on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 04:07:57 PM EST

When I first came to visit the United States in 1995, the BBS scene was very much alive (I do recall loging on, downloading games (wasn't even called "warez" back then), getting virii on my parents 486 from it), yet very few people that I knew [at least in my age group] used the BBS's for interaction, most just downloaded warez and porn of them (but then again, being 13 and 14 years of age tends to do that). When I left (for Russia, where I didn't have a modem), and came back in late 1996/early 1997, I already had the Internet, yet I wanted to look for BBS dial up numbers in various local computer zines. All I could find were adult and LBGT boards.

Seems to be a strange progression: community for the general public -> warez and pr0n -> community for subcultures.

The various phpBB/zeroforum/YaBB/etc.. boards do seem to be the closest thing there is to BBS boards in terms the "community" feel these days.

There are also various ssh/telnet boards these days, which still run derivatives of BBS software, and have some interesting content (I may post a plug for some of my favorites at a later point).

--
[T]he strongest man in the world is he who stands most alone. - Henrik Ibsen.

The BBS is dead? (none / 0) (#40)
by gidds on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 07:11:04 PM EST

Hmm, that'll surprise the thousands of folks on CIX...


Andy/

Archive of the site? (none / 0) (#41)
by ngc1976 on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 08:52:45 PM EST

Every link I click on I get a 403 access forbidden error, and going to textfiles.com gives me a 404. Did anyone manage to save the pages?

Okay... (none / 0) (#42)
by JohnLamar on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 08:53:54 PM EST

maybe it's just me but I get "Forbidden" when trying to visit any textfiles.com link you posted.

Good thing I've got the "textfiles.tar.gz"
The worst thing you've ever seen

his subdomains are still working... (none / 0) (#45)
by kpaul on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 09:45:10 PM EST

like http://ascii.textfiles.com


2014 Halloween Costumes

i just sent an email to jason scott to try to find (none / 0) (#46)
by kpaul on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 09:48:25 PM EST

out why it was locked down.

sorry, guys...


2014 Halloween Costumes

Hello, Everyone. (3.00 / 5) (#47)
by sketch on Sat Apr 02, 2005 at 09:59:14 PM EST

Jason Scott, TEXTFILES.COM guy and general hoo-hah. Saturday nights are often when I upgrade my machines/do other work, and as it stands, kpaul caught me in the middle of an fsck on the textfiles.com site. Whoops. It'll be back up in hour or two. If you're all feeling frisky, I just finished a BBS Documentary, at www.bbsdocumentary.com which, if you like this sort of stuff, you'll be happy to read about.

Damn it... (2.50 / 2) (#49)
by absurdist on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 04:11:29 AM EST

...at least when I logged on to the BBS chat rooms then and talked to the horny 12 year old girls online, they were a: local, and b: not anywhere near as likely to be a cop as they are now.

This is progress?

if you were part of the BBS community... (2.00 / 3) (#51)
by alizard on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 07:42:16 AM EST

check this out:

============== quote

Welcome to BBSmates.com.

Lose contact with your old BBS buddies during the internet revolution?

On this website, you can:

  • Search a list of 75,000 BBSes that existed from the 80's to present!
  • If you were a sysop, look for your old BBS or add it if it's not already in the database
  • Add yourself as a member to BBSes that you called
  • Find members that you used to chat and game with!
----------- end quote
"The horse is dead. Fuck it or walk away, but stop beating it." Juan Rico
Is the BBS scene really dead? (none / 1) (#52)
by QillerPenguin on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 03:30:29 PM EST

A short while back, I found a backup of the config files to my old BBS I had during the mid 90s, Heaven's Gate. It was an OS/2 based system, running Maximus BBS. Originally it was the DOS version run under DesqView (later DesqViewX), but the OS/2 version was more stable and gave me less headaches. A small, very private BBS, I only had a couple of members, who promised to call in only between 9pm to around 7am, then in the afternoon when I was at work. I never showed up on any of the lists, just as I wanted. Later I was a part of a FidoNet alternative in Central Fla, RoverNet, which was active for about a year or so. Then the Internet hit, I had already signed up for Bellsouth Internet dial-up access (now DSL), and then I got divorced. The BBS and the whole local scene just sort of dried up...

Anywho, I found my old Warp CD, a CD set of the Hobbs OS/2 collection, including Maximus BBS, and an old system that OS/2 miraculously installed on. Now the Maximus BBS config files, gosh, now maybe I can get the old BBS back up, just for fun! But is there going to be a FidoNet for me to connect to?

Maybe, FidoNet still seems to be around, and they look like they still take applications. Is anyone here still trying to do FidoNet? Or are there otheer active BBS networks around? It'd be fun to try one of the Internet telnet doors I found on the Hobbs CDs, just for grins. I had a lot of fun keeping the BBS up, there was a lot to know, and lots of that knowledge still comes in handy today.

(btw: the name of my BBS, Heaven's Gate, is an ironic take-off on the name of the motorcycle gang my brother is a member of in Houston, Heaven's Gate, since they are not pure and godly by any means, and I'm an atheist. But I had to have a BBS name, that's the first thing I thought of...)

"All your Unix are belong to us" - SCO, 2003.
BBSs (none / 1) (#55)
by waxmop on Sun Apr 03, 2005 at 11:11:42 PM EST

I was 17 when I got into BBSs. I remember pulling down text files about UFOs and the Men in Black. I also remember playing solar realms. That game taught me the fundamentals of macroeconomics long before I saw a supply-demand graph.

I liked that back then, most boards had a "page the SysOp" function. You could see if the sysop was around to chat. Then you might swap phone numbers to other boards.

Then I went to a tiny liberal arts college and totally lost touch for the next ten years or so. I kept using DOS on my 286 until 2000 when I bought a PII so that I could learn to program perl.
--
fuck meatspace man I gotta level my dwarf cleric lonelyhobo

Baron Realms Elite (none / 1) (#56)
by kerinsky on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 01:16:59 AM EST

Best Game Ever.

I'll always rememeber fondly that one magic round where about 8 of us managed to utterly and completely dominate and decimate an entire league of probably 25 planets and 150 or so other serious players.  Needles to say after the reset we got trounced =)

Come to think of it also the reason for the first and only time I've ever met someone in real life that first I met online*...  I played as Caves of Steel on the Politically Incorrect BBS in the insane offchance that anybody remembers me.

*Not including my stepmother, doesn't really seem like that should count.

-=-
A conclusion is simply the place where you got tired of thinking.

Just out of curiousity (none / 1) (#57)
by trhurler on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 02:12:52 AM EST

Do you even know what you're on about? You sound too young to even remember a lot of the history you're promoting.

--
'God dammit, your posts make me hard.' --LilDebbie

*sigh* (none / 1) (#61)
by anthroporraistes on Mon Apr 04, 2005 at 06:48:16 PM EST

Damn nostalgia.  I used to frequent mainly 2 BBSs back in the day, the main one of which I just realized I completely forgot the name of (Flatland Center).  Shame on me.  But then my friends has a small one up for people who gave up on the second one.  It was such an amazing time period and medium, one that the internet could never replace.  It really is a shame that dial-up killed them, I think we really lost something in the trade.  

I met one of my best freinds on a BBS (Blastronics, out of Phoenix AZ).  I made several really good aquaintences.  Killed many a boring evening in LORD.  

<sigh>

---
biology is destiny

Ah the joys of BBS pr0n (none / 1) (#62)
by Cubics Rube on Tue Apr 05, 2005 at 11:31:18 AM EST

1) Find obscure BBS that allows free pron downloads. 2) Sign up for account. Possibly wait a few days for sysop to activate it with a decent amount of access ( to prove you're not a troll, though that seems to be a usenet term not a BBS one really ) 3) Discover whether the sysop requires age verification to view pron. Many did not require such verification thinking that being able to use a computer meant you were an adult. They were taking a big risk, because BBSs are NOT covered by common carrier status. In those days, you could get in big trouble ( like having all your computers confiscated and or going to jail ) if a kid downloaded a pron pic from your BBS. But many BBSs didn't enforce age verification nonetheless. 4) Possibly upload a couple of shareware programs, or some clip-art to build up anti-leech points. 5) Choose a picture based on 'category' and filename. Take a long time doing this - reading filenames and category names and wishing you had enough facial hair to fool the clerk at the store into selling you a Hustler loaded with tons of such pictures. 6) Download the file via Z-Modem using 2400 baud modem. Wait 45 minutes. Wait till Mom was out of the room. Attempt to look at picture. DOH corrupted! Back to step 5, or step 4 if you were out of anti-leech points. For BBSs that were actually trying to make a profit, maybe even back to step 2 since new users would be fronted a few 'sample points' - enough to download 1 or 2 small files. 7) The picture was not corrupted! Enjoy minutes of gazing at often grainy and low quality photo featuring average looking women with skanky but 1970's hairdos. Rarely you'd get a decent quality pic from the present ( late 80's early 90's ). 8) Show off to friends that you can 'get porn'. 9) Log back onto throw away account now drained of sample points and post some trollish graffitti. 10) Back to step 1. 11) Profit $$

TOTSE & ACiD (none / 0) (#67)
by fuchikoma on Wed Apr 06, 2005 at 11:15:45 PM EST

Another good source for old textfiles is Temple of the Screaming Electron. ACiD Productions also has a full archive of their art (graphics, ANSI, MODs, etc) online and for sale.

Stellar 7 (none / 0) (#68)
by Accuracy on Thu Apr 07, 2005 at 01:09:53 AM EST

There was an old BBS game called Stellar 7... a lot like LORD... that I figured out a way to break. A person who knew the trick could actually beat the game in 15 minuts (1 session!) and doing so reset the game, usually pissing off the people who didn't know, or tried to beat it the REAL way. You went to this bar on the first world, and had drinks with an NPC, and then went to the last world and fought the big boss (with no battles in between!). The guy you had a drink with would kill the last boss, you'd get the credit, game over. I did this on occasion, because it was so funny... and I was an annoying git at the time (I'm mostly better now).

Thank you kpaul! (none / 1) (#71)
by taste on Thu Apr 07, 2005 at 09:42:17 PM EST

You have just given me new means to procrastinate at work just when I was running dry on resources. Now, to sneak into the boss' room to leave him this nifty battery bomb I just worked up.

A great experience and a fascinating culture (none / 1) (#72)
by twh270 on Sat Apr 09, 2005 at 11:54:27 PM EST

I participated in the BBS scene from about 89 to 92. Co-sysop'd a board in College Station, TX (and Dallas when we moved) called The Wyrm's Byte for a while. Met some interesting people (mostly in CS) through BBSing, and had some great times both as a user and op. Thanks for the trip down memory lane.

-Thomas

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