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"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture"

By MrMikey in MrMikey's Diary
Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 10:17:23 AM EST
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This story has been making the rounds the last day or so...

DOVER, United States (AFP) - The pastoral fields and white frame houses appear at peace, but this Pennsylvania farm town is deeply at war over teaching Darwin or Christian creationism in its schools.

Since last year the school board voted to have high school biology teachers raise doubts about Darwin's 145-year-old theory and suggest an alternative Christian explanation for life. The city has since been deeply riven over the issue of separation of church and state.


This pastor had some... interesting things to say:
But pastor and parent Ray Mummert, 54, explained their point.

"If we continue to indoctrinate our young people with non-religious principles, we're headed for an internal destruction of this society," he said.

"Evolution is just a theory and there are other theories," Mummert explained, smiling through his beard.

"There is such a complexity in life, and science wants to hang its hat on a belief that life somehow started -- they say there is no creator, no order ... I believe there is a creator," he said.

"Christians are a lot more bold under Bush's leadership, he speaks what a lot of us believe," said Mummert.

"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture," he said, adding that the school board's declaration is just a first step.

That's the saddest, scariest line of all... "We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture." What does that say about his opinion of himself, his community, intelligence, and education? As someone on the 'net quipped, "That's so unfair - they are obviously unarmed." I think they were more right than they knew: many people are ill-equipped, either intellectually or emotionally, to understand and accept some of what humans have learned about how the world works. It scares them... they find that the things they thought were certain, fixed, and simple are really illusory, and that the real world is neither certain, nor fixed, nor simple. This scares them, and that fear motivates them to reject or even seek to destroy the information they find disturbing, and even the messengers of that information. It is, in the end, a destructive impulse. The Earth will continue to turn regardless of what we believe, but we will face the consequences of actions motivated by fear or ignorance, wilful or otherwise.

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"We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture" | 74 comments (74 topical, editorial, 0 hidden)
but (2.50 / 6) (#1)
by drsammyb on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 10:38:00 AM EST

Evolution is just a theory--whereas creationism is pure quackery.  Anyway, I have an appointment with the time cube.


It would be an affirmative action item (none / 1) (#2)
by nkyad on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 10:55:01 AM EST

"The Uneducated Dumb Protection Act".

Unfortunatelly, the current American geovernment is against affirmative action. Besides, the uneducated dumb are probably a majority.

But this is seriously sad shit. These people will destroy your educational system.

Don't believe in anything you can't see, smell, touch or at the very least infer from a good particle accelerator run


It's a trick (3.00 / 4) (#7)
by Maurkov on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 11:25:26 AM EST

Because of the controversy, these kids are going to care a lot more about evolution than your average high school students.  They may even pick up some critical thinking skills.  Those that are actually swayed by creationism never had a chance in the first place.

The "attacked by the intelligent" line is going to get him in trouble.  They weren't supposed to cop to being trolls for another year or so, when they could point to test scores to demonstrate the success of the "pretend you're an idiot and kids will learn something to prove it" teaching method.


What the fuck are you? (3.00 / 2) (#11)
by Adiabatic Expansion on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 01:01:29 PM EST

tweetsygalore Mark II?

this is just like the reality based thing. (none / 0) (#13)
by the ghost of rmg on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 03:26:22 PM EST

you don't understand what he's saying. when you laugh, you're just reasserting a value judgement you don't even know you're making.

the sad thing is, these people have a much better handle on what's actually going on in this society than people like yourself who evidently consider themselves "educated" and "reality based." the irony is that if you really were educated, you'd have some notion of how loaded the words "educated" and "reality" are.


rmg: comments better than yours.

Question: (none / 0) (#26)
by cr8dle2grave on Tue Mar 29, 2005 at 07:27:05 PM EST

Why ever do you care what they're doing in Dover? Or is it just that that feeling of smug superiority is too much to pass over?

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Unity of mankind means: No escape for anyone anywhere. - Milan Kundera


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