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Review: The Underground History of American Education

By localroger in Culture
Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 02:13:04 AM EST
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In 1991 John Taylor Gatto was a thirty-year veteran of the New York school system, and had been honored as both NYC and NY state Teacher of the Year. Then, at the height of his career, he published a provocative essay titled I Quit, I Think in the Wall Street Journal, and shortly thereafter he did indeed quit.

Nine years later Gatto published The Underground History of American Education, a massively researched exposition of his discontent with the education system. Now he's made it available to read online, and it's an eye-opener.


One of the more interesting people I encountered back in my New Age days was D. She was crazy. I don't mean "believes in crystal magic" crazy, I mean fire-in-the-brain full-blown-psychosis crazy. D.'s condition did not respond to medication and it manifested in vivid, lifelike visions. She was older than me and had had reached an interesting detente with her condition; she was smart as a whip and knew full well what her visions were, but she had decided it was easier and more fulfilling to accept them rather than denying them. As a result she probably had a richer life than most normal people do.

One day D. greeted me darkly. "I had a vision of Leviathan," she said. Her vision of Leviathan still gives me chills today; it was a great lurking beast beneath the surface of the real world, more machine than animal, with its tentacles everywhere. You could not escape it. At the moment of your birth it would put its claws into you and it never let you go. It would destroy you eventually for you are its food and its spirit; but it would destroy you sooner and more painfully and cast you aside for the worthless dross you were to it if you balked it. I really can't do justice to D.'s description; she made it seem like a real thing that I might see myself. D. described a soulless corporate steamroller that moulds those of us it can into those unnatural shapes it finds useful, and discards the rest of us like the shavings on a workshop floor; and she made it feel real.

This brings me to John Taylor Gatto.

I wish I could say I was outraged by The Underground History of American Education. Outrage would be comfortable. Outrage would provide energy and suggest courses of action. But outrage will not come; instead what I feel is horror. Because what Gatto has done is to reveal D.'s Leviathan in all its ghastly splendor.

This book represents a superhuman effort of scholarship; it took Gatto nine years to write after the epiphany that destroyed his career. But it's no small monster he has uncovered. The Leviathan revealed by Gatto is made up of humans and human ideas and human dreams and a generous dollop of human evil, but the true horror is that it is not human. Just as we are something other than the cells which make up our bodies, Leviathan is bigger than any of the people or dogmas that make it up.

Gatto traces every tentacle back to the stem cell from which it emerged -- the dreamers, crackpots, tyrants, fascists, and Utopian do-gooders whose efforts and ideas swirled around in human society until they metastazed into something nobody could have imagined. Gatto begins at the beginning -- before Leviathan, before universal schooling, he shows us how we learned by example. Over and over Gatto demonstrates that when you give a human a compelling reason to learn, he will absorb knowledge at an unbelievable rate. Gatto tells us,

Abundant data exist to show that by 1840 the incidence of complex literacy in the United States was between 93 and 100 percent, wherever such a thing mattered. Yet compulsory schooling existed nowhere.
Gatto makes a good case that learning is a natural process that people excel at unless you interfere with it. And what schooling does is interfere with that process. Tragically, for the last fifty years in particular, whenever someone notices that the schools aren't doing their job the answer is always to hire more people given more training to interfere more.

In Part One:

Gatto shows us how the founders of the US and the great Classical philosophers educated themselves by picking their own topics of interest, and how in a nation with few schools most people taught themselves to read -- often in a matter of weeks -- by the now-controversial but bone-obvious method of sounding out the letters. Gatto later spends some time on the fate of Phonics in the classroom, and the unnaturally pigheaded manner in which it was forced out in favor of the "whole word" method which demonstrably doesn't work.

In Part Two:

Gatto then shows us how systems developed explicitly to keep the masses stupid for social control in India and Prussia were eagerly imported by the new capitalists hoping to cement their oligarchy. But as soon as we are wanting to blame these greedy bastards for the present mess, Gatto reminds us that Utopianists are as much to blame for their own contributions:

Utopian schooling is never about learning in the traditional sense; it's about the transformation of human nature.
The catalyst that allowed these two groups to foist their unholy vision on an unsuspecting populace was coal. Cheap manufacturing and far-flung empire created a management class whose very existence depended on skilled but compliant functionaries. Schools were created to certify these new "professionals." Ordinary people were drawn to these unnatural training institutions because they wanted the jobs and prestige that came with being in management. It quickly became "obvious" that it was in society's interest to ensure a steady supply of such compliant skilled functionaries for the factories and offices which were the heart and lungs of this new beast, and so the argument was swallowed that schooling should be compulsory.

Once the system was established of manufacturing, jobs, and schooling, the efficiency experts and "scientfic managers" moved in to fine-tune things. These people wanted to quantify the skills they were imparting to the new working and management classes, and they ruthlessly expanded upon the idea of people as interchangeable parts, tested and programmed to do exactly and only what they were required and expected to do. And the amazing thing is that, even though the whole idea is contrary to every shred of common sense and experience, it was lapped up and propped up and remains central dogma to this day even though, just like the whole-word method for reading, abundant evidence shows that it's wrong and stupid.

In Part Three:

Having laid out the origins of today's dysfunctional school system, Gatto takes off on a one-chapter personal tangent.

The great destructive myth of the twentieth century was the aggressive contention that a child could not grow up correctly in the unique circumstances of his own family.
Gatto recounts some incidents from his own childhood which would raise the hackles of any family court lawyer today, and reveals how the risks and dangers and "bad influences" he was subjected to were actually critical in forming his personality.
Before I went to first grade I could add, subtract, and multiply in my head. I knew my times tables not as work but as games Dad played on drives around Pittsburgh. Learning anything was easy when you felt like it. My father taught me that, not any school.
The other thing Gatto makes it clear he learned from his childhood village is his sense of ethics. Mistakes are made and punishment and shame forged a sense of honor and reputation. These things can't be formally taught; they emerge differently for everyone because we make different mistakes and have different epiphanies. But the aim of modern schooling (and family law) is to remove all opportunity for mistakes and to eliminate shame.
Principles were a daily part of every study at Waverly. In latter days, schools replaced principles with an advanced form of pragmatism called "situational ethics," where principles were shown to be variable according to the demands of the moment. During the 1970s, forcing this study on children became an important part of the school religion. People with flexible principles reserve the right to betray their covenants. It's that simple. The misery of modern life can be graphed in the rising incidence of people who exercise the right to betray each other, whether business associates, friends, or even family. Pragmatists like to keep their options open. When you live by principles, whatever semantic ambiguity they involve you in, there are clear boundaries to what you will allow, even when nobody is watching.
In Part Four:

The experience of global war gave official school reform a grand taste for what was possible.
In the postwar years the school system, already highly advanced in the cause of moulding good little corporate drones, was put into overdrive and aggressively forced into every last backwater of resistance. The Fascists, the eugenecists, the Utopianists, and the keepers of the new industrial caste system all saw the schools as the best vehicle for perfecting their vision of society. Although schools are always sold to the public as a means of teaching the "three R's," Gatto shows that mere learning came to be the least of the public school's function (which is one reason they've become so bad at teaching those unimportant little details).

The new behaviorist theories that treat children more like lab rats than unique individuals came to be applied with a vigor that resulted in a litany of horrific and insane policies. In Part Four Gatto delves into exactly what the school system has become and how it affects the very real people who are consigned to it. And the picture isn't pretty.

Internally, away from the critical eyes of parents, the schools abandoned all pretense of being about traditional education. School became a total institution, a warren of crushing boredom and ridiculous, often contradictory rules; and success wasn't judged by the ability to impart or receive knowledge nearly as much as on how those rules were followed.

In Part Five:

In the final section of the book Gatto goes into the politics of schools, the exact mechanisms by which the best teachers and administrators are hounded out (because anyone who is more interested in human beings than in the rules is a threat to the system). In another chapter are the mechanisms by which "modern" school systems are foisted on communities which don't need or want them, by the cunning manipulation of building codes and other legal tricks. Leviathan will not stand for any corner of the world to be out of its grasp, or any individual to slip away.

In the final chapter of the book Gatto attempts to provide some hope by citing various people who did slip out of Leviathan's grasp, and providing some small advice.

Your four-year-old wants to play? Let him help you cook dinner for real, fix the toilet, clean the house, build a wall, sing "Eine Feste Burg." Give her a map, a mirror, and a wristwatch, let her chart the world in which she really lives. You will be able to tell from the joy she displays that becoming strong and useful is the best play of all. Pure games are okay, too, but not day in, day out. Not a prison of games. There isn't a single formula for breaking out of the trap, only a general one you tailor to your own specifications.
Which is all well and good, but it presupposes that Leviathan is going to let you get away with this. Already it is rousing a few tentacles against the incipient threat of home schooling. And every once in awhile the threat is re-raised to eliminate summer vacation and make the total institution a yearlong affair. Combine that with the insane dictum that my own schools abided by recommending an hour of homework for each daily class, and you see that Leviathan has no intention of allowing your kid to be a kid. And for the last few decades, if you get too uppity Leviathan has been perfectly willing to step in and take your children from you for your failure to raise them by its standards.

Although Gatto only goes into it to the extent necessary to explain how schools got the way they are, he makes it clear that the schools themselves are just one tentacle of an even larger, still largely unseen monster. The schools are the way they are in large measure because the economy needs them that way. Gatto briefly mentions but doesn't really explore the wider ramifications of this; the way Leviathan makes our very existence, our ability to have a place to stay and a meal to eat, contingent on our willingness to abide by its standards and participate in its body. Unless you come up with a really clever alternative you must work to support your life, and all work leads back to Leviathan because Leviathan has control of the air supply. You can cooperate, or you can live in a cardboard box and starve; other alternatives have been suppressed as has our memory that they ever existed at all.

This, to me, is the ultimate horror of Gatto's book; he spent nine years documenting the school system, a system with which he had a thirty-year intimate familiarity. Yet the thing he reveals is clearly even larger than that. If you manage to follow his advice and save your child from being a flunky, where will he live and how will he eat? Gatto doesn't go there in The Underground History, but it's clearly the next question a reader needs to ask.

Epilogue

Gatto ends his book with the obligatory rousing call...

Time to take our schools back. If they mean to have a war, let it begin now.
Well that's a nice sentiment, John, but let's get real. Your own book has just meticulously documented how teachers, administrators, and even principals who insist on even minor deviations like sticking to phonics for reading are ruthlessly hounded out of the system. You've shown us how communities have new school systems foisted on them despite democratically refusing twelve times in a row. And have you by any chance been watching how the Iraq war protesters are treated, and how seriously they're taken by the Administration?

Leviathan doesn't care. You cannot beat a thing like that unless you're willing to tear out its heart -- and that means destroying our entire civilization.

Even after reading The Underground History I'm not sure I want that. I'm not sure I see any other way out but I'm not sure I want to see it all blow up. As you yourself say,

Spare yourself the anxiety of thinking of this school thing as a conspiracy, even though the project is indeed riddled with petty conspirators. It was and is a fully rational transaction in which all of us play a part. We trade the liberty of our kids and our free will for a secure social order and a very prosperous economy. It's a bargain in which most of us agree to become as children ourselves, under the same tutelage which holds the young, in exchange for food, entertainment, and safety. The difficulty is that the contract fixes the goal of human life so low that students go mad trying to escape it.
Well yes, that's about it, isn't it? We agree to be the cells of Leviathan's body because Leviathan is mighty and it raises us up, even if it is prone to destroy us at whim. Just as a brain cell can't function in the wild without a body to support it, most of us have forgotten how to exist without the many functions Leviathan provides for us. And that's why we do what it wants, even though it drives us insane.

The problem with fighting Leviathan is that ultimately, Leviathan is made up of us. It has turned us into specialized organisms that can't survive without it. If you can figure out how to fight the body you're part of, you're a smarter brain cell than I am, John Taylor Gatto.

D. saw Leviathan for what it was, plain and whole and it didn't take her nine years of research to work it out. But then, D. is crazy which means by definition Leviathan has no use for her, so it's probably an advantage. When it takes a crazy person to see the situation for what it is, it's not a good sign.

So, one might ask what can be done. Not being entirely normal myself I formed my own response to Leviathan's power when I was still a small child, just becoming aware of its power and callousness. Being by some estimates one of Leviathan's brain cells, it's even metaphorically appropriate. At the age of seven or so I vowed that I would never have kids. At the time I didn't even know exactly how kids came about, but I kept that vow even when I was old enough to learn how the whole having-kids thing works.

I find it interesting that in his list of responses to the situation John Taylor Gatto didn't think of that; I suppose we all have our blind spots.

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Schools?
o Completely beneficial 2%
o Necessary evil 11%
o Just let 'em loose in the library 11%
o We Don't Need No ED-U-CA-TION 9%
o If you can read this, thank a teacher. 7%
o If you can't read this, blame an administrator. 5%
o You're paranoid with this Leviathan sh*t, d00d. 6%
o Bring back the one-room schoolhouse. 3%
o Home schooling rules. 18%
o There are much bigger problems. 2%
o Schools are THE problem. 14%
o I dint haf no skool an im ok 1%
o Slink back under your rock, you uneducated loser 4%

Votes: 110
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Review: The Underground History of American Education | 372 comments (363 topical, 9 editorial, 1 hidden)
yes but (2.88 / 9) (#5)
by Black Belt Jones on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 10:23:13 PM EST

will underground education teach me to build hand-coded assembler flat-file databases?

Suppressed alternatives (2.80 / 5) (#12)
by Squidward on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:02:39 PM EST

Unless you come up with a really clever alternative you must work to support your life, and all work leads back to Leviathan because Leviathan has control of the air supply. You can cooperate, or you can live in a cardboard box and starve; other alternatives have been suppressed as has our memory that they ever existed at all.

Which alternatives were these? Haven't people always had to work to support their lives?

It seems to me as though I have far more options than I would have had 200 years ago.

ironic or frightening (none / 1) (#13)
by collideiscope on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:03:32 PM EST

that John Taylor Gatto's site is unreachable now. You choose.

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Well I voted -1 on this (2.20 / 5) (#16)
by pHatidic on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:46:50 PM EST

I really wanted to vote this up to the front page before I even read the article based on the topic alone. This is one of the most influential books I've ever read and for some reason it has never really been publicly discussed at all. But the article just wasn't that inspiring to me; it seems like more of a pseudo-summary than an actual book review. It doesn't even say whether the book is worth reading or not which is sort of the point of a book review.

If you read just one thing by John Taylor Gatto, read his essay the six-lesson school teacher.

And if you want to see a telling portion of the book, read the section about the National Adult Literacy Survey.

awareness (3.00 / 5) (#18)
by adimovk5 on Tue Jul 27, 2004 at 11:56:19 PM EST

The key to controlling the Leviathan is awareness. You must name the creature and expose it to the light of day. You must spread the news. You must teach the lesson to your neighbors, friends, and family. You must teach your children. The Leviathan is real. The Leviathan cannot be killed without killing us. We are the Leviathan.

We must study it and learn from it. In studying it, we study ourselves. We can prepare for a better tomorrow in which we are the masters of the Leviathan instead of its slaves.

The Leviathan is the collective will, the group think.

It is every voice that swears that society is more important than individuals.

It is not belonging but servitude. It is not sharing but submission. It is not cooperation but slavery.



No teacher teached me to read (none / 2) (#19)
by kaol on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:11:06 AM EST

I was 5 or 6 at the time. Our family had a boat at the time, which for me meant hours of forced free time while we were sailing. Needless to say, I was bored out of my hide. One time I decided confine myself into the forepeak with a Donald Duck comic book.

I didn't even know the letters. I had to try the whole alphabet for each letter and try to guess what the whole word meant. It was all one big Caesar cipher for me. Granted that my mother had read it to me sometime and I had the general idea of what it was about, but it was still somewhat of a feat. Eventually I emerged from the forepeak and proudly demonstrated my new skill to her. I remember I had an headache afterwards.

She hadn't bothered to try to teach me to read before school. She'd already tried that on my older brother, who didn't like it.

It is getting fought. (none / 1) (#20)
by Xeriar on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:35:21 AM EST

It has to. Parts of it are killing it (IE, the legal system, the tax system, and to a degree the school system) and thus, it gets changed.

Occasionally something does get changed without need, of course (slavery) because enough people simply decide it has to be. Leviathan is not, by its nature, some giant evil entity. All civilizations are really one giant superorganism. Like ants are a part of their nest, humans are a part of their society. And these societies are a part of their civilization.

You call it Leviathan and attribute all this evilness to it because, well, people are not predisposed to organization on this level. Six billion people is a staggering number, and each of us are just another one.

The problem has been exagerated recently because the past six centuries have been spent with such a skyrocketing population that there is really no comparing it. Noone has tried coordinating this many people before.

So people fuck up.
Or try to take a little more than their share.
Or just get so overwhelmed as to not even try.

A few millenia of this by so many people have left us with quite a legacy. Of course, it means a lot has to be changed. For what it's worth, I think Leviathan could have turned out to be a lot worse.

----
When I'm feeling blue, I start breathing again.
Where is the dissent? (3.00 / 7) (#26)
by Polverone on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 02:11:27 AM EST

I mentioned this in another comment, but I'll ask again here: where are the nay-sayers? Where are the dissenting views, the people willing to say "things aren't as grim as Gatto makes it seem?" I spent 30 minutes with Google once (okay, not the most thorough of scholarship) trying to find critiques or challenges of Gatto's work. I found virtually nothing.

I did find a few nitpicks: one message on Usenet said that Gatto attributed quotes to Dewey that could not be found in Dewey's writings. Another said that Gatto was wrong about historical literacy rates for blacks. A K5 poster who responded to my linked comment said that Gatto substantially misrepresents parts of Chinese history. This handful of (possible) factual errors leaves me uneasy: are they isolated flaws in a generally outstanding piece of scholarship, or signs of systematic errors?

It doesn't make things any easier that Gatto does not have much use for footnotes, and that many of the sources he does reference are old and obscure. They are old enough that I at one time put "get Gatto's references, scan and post them on the Web" on my long-term todo list. But until I actually attend to that task, it's tough for me to tell how much liberty he's taken with his sources.

This man is hardly obscure, and says things that should be highly controversial, or at least attention-grabbing. But when people talk about this book, it only seems to be to praise it, no matter what their background or political leanings. I would feel better about it if I had been able to hunt down a serious critique, rather than praise heaped upon praise.

Why has no school administration professional made a public rebuttal or commentary on this work? Why is there just one mention of it on the NEA's website, and that mention itself a visitor-submitted comment that received no replies? Why have teachers not risen to defend (even a little bit) the system in which they work?

This man has been published in the Wall Street Journal. He's not some two-bit Usenet crank. So where are the critical responses? The silence is positively eerie.
--
It's not a just, good idea; it's the law.

Are schools really for academic education? (none / 3) (#29)
by Azmeen on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 02:38:41 AM EST

I feel that I've learnt more interesting things out of school than in it. However, I don't think that schools are "that bad" (TM).

If you go to school with the expectation that you will learn all that you need to learn there, you will be very, very dissapointed. My take on it is that schools are actually very good in "stirring" a child's curiosity.

Sure, they'll learn about a dozen subjects throughout the year... and I find that it's perfectly logical that not everything learnt will be of interest to the child, but it is still a highly important point of discovery.

Every child has his or her own intelligences. Each person will have at least two of them. I don't feel that schools should teach each child according to their intelligences. It would be very time consuming and expensive. Even when the method is feasible, the children will then have little interaction with others of different intelligences.

Schools are also one of the most important source of social interaction.


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yet another effort from localroger. (2.59 / 22) (#36)
by rmg on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 04:04:50 AM EST

well boys, it's time to break out our sob stories. once more, we may ruefully recount our traumatic formative years. yet again, we will expound upon how society and the school system has robbed us of our potential, that ephemeral essence of being that slipped from our grasp like so many brightly colored moths -- our chains, of course, prevented us from recapturing them -- all those years ago. it was the teachers, the homework, those horrid, perfect little girls -- how they mocked us! -- but never us...

we did not become what we wanted to be because they would not let us. they demanded we do it their way, never our own. never free. never me.

yes, this is the story we've all heard. from ourselves often enough, i imagine. but can anyone -- anyone of intelligence -- believe, as localroger so earnestly asserts, that we are unable to escape from this so-called "leviathan" without some "clever trick"? that we really are nothing more than what the school system (that is to say the man) makes of us? or that the forces of "society" will destroy us should we insist an alternative "life plan"? (the fictions of ayn rand notwithstanding.)

clearly, the examples of those who have gone dramatically astray are many. then why all this pretending about systems and society? is it nothing more than envy? do we imagine these deviants did not face the same "trials" as the rest of us? no, i think it's much worse than that. each of us believes our plight is unique, in spite of the overwhelmingly obvious facts of the matter. (i chalk it up to poor reading.) given that, obviously these exceptions to the rule are no surprise!

but i'm willing to grant this talk about marxist materialism. products of an environment, conditioned to labor, flow of capital, and the rest. in this formulation, indeed, the human being is just, to use roger's inanely nerdish biological metaphor (what luck such things will keep him out of any publication more reputable than this god forsaken blog!), a "cell" in this leviathan. nothing more than an element of the socio-economic order -- an element of capital coursing through the vast system of "tentacles." it is in the nature of the cell to be nothing more.

how about those deviants though? what are they? are they a cancer on the leviathan as localroger so idiotically suggests the utopians are? (an aside for rog: one of the drawbacks of dropping out of school is that you never learn where that sort of rhetoric comes from. hint: it got its big break in the last century.) no, they don't fit into the theory at all. they are something fundamentally different from these mere cellular automata. (you see? we can all pander to nerds!) must be some clever trick...

to bring this all together, i will simply remark upon how easy it is to deviate. one can become an artist, a day trader as many did in the late 90s, an academic, a traveller... any of so many different things. one need not be subject to the manager-professional relationship nor the concept of corporate heirarchy nor any of the other things the failed shells of human beings who bemoan their childhoods as we are about to witness see as somehow inescapable. the chance to deviate is there at every step of the way.

of course, we might expect such an article from someone whose way of sticking it to the man is getting two years of technical training, becoming a semi-skilled laborer (to wit, a visual basic programmer), then in the ultimate act of protest not have a child to replace him -- as surely that shining instance of human spirit (a brain cell. a real chip off the ol' block.) would have only frittered away its life just the same.

but if you are one of those who, by your nature, will not or cannot deviate, please, today after you're done writing your daily java, take a walk in the park (it should be a busy one with playgrounds if you please). surely you'll see that though we all return to the earth, those who spring from it while we're on the way can bring us all the meaning we may have thought we left behind. yes, they may be nothing more than mere cells in the leviathan, but damn it, they're our cells in the leviathan. maybe we all had foolish hopes as children and foolishly grew out of them, but certainly, as cells, we can appreciate the process of osmosis.

please don't make fun of me for writing such a long comment. it's late at night and i've darned all my socks already.

_____

if i do not respond, it is because you wrote nothing worthy of response.

dave dean

Da man (none / 2) (#39)
by Highlander on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 04:27:33 AM EST

I support the idea of the Leviathan.

However, I think that kids actually can learn something in school.

I'm not sure that they should spend that much time in school and spend so much time in classes that they don't like, and other stuff might be more vital and profitable to them, but learning to read is a prerequisite for learning by yourself from reading books.

localroger, you decided pretty early that you were fed up with the world. I think you need some Zweckoptimismus to get somewhere.

Moderation in moderation is a good thing.

Accidental opposing view (none / 2) (#41)
by tetsuwan on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 05:32:46 AM EST

DN (in Swedish) had an article where a professor praises the social democratic educational policy that let her escape the prison of her small home town. She calls it "the escape from the two H:s", house wife and hair dresser. A friendly advisor came by her school and told her about how to get cheap loans for studies at the university.

Of course, going to the university at that time was a bit different than now, as it actually more or less guaranteed you a good job.

Njal's Saga: Just like Romeo & Juliet without the romance

I homeschool all five of my children (3.00 / 11) (#42)
by mcrbids on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 06:05:46 AM EST

I see schools as a place where subservience and dedication to the mundane reigns supreme. The classroom environment kills curiosity, drive, motivation, and the whole idea of the importance of finishing what you start.

Classrooms create an environment where mediocrity is honored. If you stand out, you get hit. If you do well, your classmates attack. If you suck, your teacher attacks. Best to be one somewhere in the middle.

This is mediocrity defined.

I want my children to question values. Question authority. Question reality. I want them to shake up the world around them, and demand that it make sense. I don't want pacivists for my kids!

I homeschool - both a challenge and a reward, everyday! My oldest are now 15 and are attending college - don't tell me schools are "good for kids"!
I kept looking around for somebody to solve the problem. Then I realized... I am somebody! -Anonymouse

Leviathan (2.57 / 7) (#43)
by bugmaster on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 06:19:31 AM EST

Didn't Hobbes write something like that ?

In any case, I think that Paul Graham wrote a good article about the subject, titled Why Nerds Are Unpopular. It's very entertaining and well-written, so you should read it, but the gist of it is that our schools are not designed to teach anything to anybody; they're just glorified prisons, places to put kids so that they don't bother anyone while the parents are working. Unfortunately, Paul Graham also seems to think that this is a side-effect of our society, and nothing can be done to change it.
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Nice work. (1.75 / 20) (#44)
by RobotSlave on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 06:23:22 AM EST

You've managed to mention Gatto on K5 a mere four years after I did (note the glowing me-to-ism from rusty. Charming, really).

OK, it's not entirely fair to pick on you for that, because, after all, you didn't even post your first comment on K5 until almost a year after I'd mentioned Gatto.

So congratulations, I suppose. Quite a few nutballs have latched onto Gatto in the intervening years (our local tiger is a prime specimen. You two should really get together, some day. He can read your fiction, you can read his essays), so I'm sure responses to this will be all over the map.

Please understand that I haven't bothered to read your review beyond the first few sentences, as I don't consider you even minimally qualified to write such a thing, but I'm pretty sure you'll reap what ye sow, here, regardless. That's the game at hand, after all, isn't it?

Over and out, good buddy.

What the hell is wrong with the schools? (2.55 / 9) (#46)
by bc on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 07:26:59 AM EST

They produced you lot, didn't they? Or is that what the problem is?

Anyroad, Austria and Germany use the traditional synthetic phonics system, England and the US use the analytic phonics system.

A recent study at a scottish school comparing synthetic and analytic phonics has shown massive advantages for traditional synthetic phonics. Interestingly, boys do much better than girls with synthetic phonics, but both still do better than they were with analytic phonics. The difference is perhaps because girls are better at rote tasks and have higher boredom thresholds - and so can withstand the gruelling three year process of analytic phonics, while the same ground is covered in a clippy three months in synthetic phonics.

Of course, the reason analytic phonics has got such a grip in the UK and the US is down to it being "trendy" and our profusion of trendy socialist sixties teachers, willing to throw out the old and bring in the new, because the new just must be better. Except it isn't, it's much worse. If you say you want to bring back the belt, the cane, or synthetic phonics, you'll get attacked by the left wing state establishment - and it doesn't matter what evidence you have of their superiority. See, they are old, and anything old must be bad, that is the doctrine of the left, and that is why the left ruins and destroys anything it gets its hands on, including our education systems.

Still, I'm hopeful the scottish parliament won't be put off by the trendy teachers, and will force them to adopt synthetic phonics on the strength of the evidence. Mind you, synthetic phonics is probably old enough that is appears a new and radical idea once again, so perhaps the trendy teachers will adopt it for that reason.

♥, bc.

Leviathan (2.77 / 9) (#52)
by Frequanaut on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 09:04:42 AM EST

I find the fixation and fear of leviathan much more interesting than underground education.

Leviathan is society. You and I are society. You, me, every other momo reading this article is part of it. Subversives, Politicians, Hobos, Bankers, Gang Members, Lawyers, Anarchists, Teachers, Artists, Terrorists, Your Parents, Your Children, The homeless guy at the methodone clinic.

It is us. It's your existence, it's the common humanity that runs through all. It's not a dark tentacled monster: it's our shared experiences with each other. It's one of the things that makes us human.

Leviathan doesn't control you, but it does affect you. Likewise, no one person controls leviathan, but we all direct it to a certain degree.  You can't escape it because it is you.

Maybe it is a dark tentacled monster to some, if so, only because we've made it so.  We demonize and are scared of things we don't understand. I always think about Jacobs Ladder, maybe it's a matter of perspective and understanding.

Whichever it is, evil beast or us: Do your best to make it better for everyone, don't let others do otherwise.

Wonderful article (none / 2) (#53)
by MMcP on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 09:16:53 AM EST

I have been putting off reading this book for a while now, thanks for a great writeup.  

Dewey defeats Aristotle (2.87 / 8) (#60)
by IHCOYC on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 09:59:06 AM EST

He's got one thing right at least:
Wherever it occurred, schooling through the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries (up until the last third of the nineteenth) heavily invested its hours with language, philosophy, art, and the life of the classical civilizations of Greece and Rome. In the grammar schools of the day, little pure grammar as we understand it existed; they were places of classical learning.
I was taught to identify the decline of US education with the anti-intellectual pseudo-philosophy of John Dewey, the man who first articulated the notion that education's purpose was to create obedient servants for the industrial economy. These things were "relevant," and the study of classical languages, the cornerstone of basic education for the preceding millennium, were "not relevant."

Whatever its shortcomings, the classical curriculum at least produced people who were able to express themselves in full paragraphs and complete sentences, complete with subordinate clauses and other fancy options. Classical educations produced writers like Thomas de Quincey and Thomas Macaulay. Abandon them, and you end up with USA Today.
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Ecce torpet probitas, virtus sepelitur;
Fit iam parca largitas, parcitas largitur;
Verum dicit falsitas; veritas mentitur.

localroger has the wool pulled over his eyes (2.80 / 5) (#62)
by speek on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 10:19:50 AM EST

Leviathan has fooled you. You are smart. You spotted Leviathan, so Leviathan came up with a new strategy - contain the problem seed and it will eventually die and be gone.

At the age of seven or so I vowed that I would never have kids.

--
al queda is kicking themsleves for not knowing about the levees

Mumbly personal nonsense on my part (2.85 / 7) (#66)
by omiKron on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 10:56:27 AM EST

There seems to be a fair amount of negativity over this one but I find this write-up excellent. Then again I share a sort of kinship here, having grown up to know my multiplication tables before I entered public school... and having had an atrocious time in those 12 years of schooling where I gained a deeply cynical view of how the world operates, while looking up from the bottom of the fish bowl.

Now is completely different from then... growing up I was reactionary. Schools made learning unpleasant and I didn't have the power of will to overcome and ignore that - I just ate what was put in front of me. Blame doesn't really matter, only results... so I won't gripe further. I'm making up lost time.

But what it all comes down to is simply that schools ARE a place to prepare youths for the workplace, and just as there are hoops to jump through on the job, you'll also find them in what is supposed to be a learning environment. So what if you end up learning procedure more than knowledge, right? I disagree but hey, whatever. Its not something I can change.

It's a damn shame that the most rational people don't seem to want to have children. I made similar vows at a similar age... the other major one was 'I will never be a slave to a bank' meaning I'd never want a mortgage. I'm not sure how rational that is, all things considered, but it stemmed out of seeing the stress my parents went through making payments and avoiding the bite when times were bad. I used to wonder what kind of world it was where people had to pay someone else for their home, but this was before I came to know "how the world works" I guess. What else can we do?

Never heard of Gatto before and I might check it out now. Thanks for the article. This kind of thing is actually why I've been dropping by K5 for a while now...
MUTATE & SURVIVE

My high school CS teacher (2.83 / 6) (#70)
by Vilim on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 11:30:34 AM EST

For the most part, my high school was like every other high school. The pointless rules existed to be scorned, the teachers took a sadistical pleasure in makeing sure every student jumped through the correct hoops. With one exception. Room 112. Room 112 was an old electronics shop which had been taken over and used by Mr. Koivisto for the computer science courses.

Our high school had a regular stream and the IB program (International Baccalaureate) which was basically a system which tried to encourage that voluntary learning stuff (and succeeded ... a little).

In any case I was in the IB program. I was also one of the 6 people who signed up for IB Higher Level computer science. This meant I got Mr Koivisto as a teacher. He had wonderful style of teaching. First of all, room 112 is alway open (during the school day). Come whenever you feel like (Room 112 was a computer lab with an adjoined abandoned electronics shop). Second, I don't like the curriculum so you are going to learn on your own, anything that I don't think you have learned properly I will touch up on before IB exams.

This had an amazing impact, and I have to say that I learned more in those two years (grades 11 and 12) than in any other class I have ever taken. At one point, Mr Koivisto ordered about 30 older computers (~133 mhz) and told us that we could each have one or two to do whatever we want with. If we fry one, admit our mistake and get another, it won't be a problem. That is where I learned everything I know about computer hardware. He didn't come up and teach us, in fact I doubt he even knew that sort of stuff. But the point was he knew how to give us the tools to learn it on our own.

Another instance is where a few of us decided that a forum system would be a great idea for the school to have. Teachers could post homework online and students could get it from anywhere. We approached Mr Koivisto about this, he thought it was a great idea and 3 days later we had a PIII 700mhz computer to host it on. I was the first server admin, countless others were employed as PHP hackers (Woltlab needed alot of hacking to be used with 1200 students and multiple, UNIX like groups). The forum system is still running today and has been a great success.

Out of the 6 people who were in the class 3 are undergrads at the University of waterloo in software engineering, computer science and mechatronics engineering. One is at Lakehead University taking CS (me), and one is at Simon Frasier taking CS.



Sounds exactly like Kaczynski (2.81 / 16) (#71)
by LilDebbie on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 11:34:19 AM EST

Congratulations. You've come upon the realization that society has long since given up the latter half of "by the people, for the people." Now you're shocked and appalled that the "machine" is eating your children. Well, hard.

You can't turn back the clock. We have evolved. The Industrial Revolution didn't come about to make our lives easier. If that was truly the case, we would be living in paradise by now. We have the technology to feed, clothe, house, and provide basic health care to the entire world several times over. Obviously, this is not happening.

Do you like NASA? Did you think the photos of Mars' surface were really cool? Well, guess what that cost. It costs more than money. It requires, as you correctly point out, universal obediance. Do you like the Internet? Yes? That's good because you already paid for it.

Have you noticed that the pace of technological growth in the past century has been, historically speaking, astronomical? The Wright brothers' flight at Kittyhawk just celebrated its centennial and now we have private investors in space. Compare that to how long it took to develop the alphabet. All this comes at a cost, and now you're upset because you finally glanced at the check.

So what now? Go out, buy a few Radiohead albums (if you don't already own them), fix yourself a stiff drink, and go back to sleep.

My name is LilDebbie and I have a garden.
- hugin -

Change our goal (none / 2) (#77)
by GhostfacedFiddlah on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:18:30 PM EST

I have no doubt that there is a Leviathan.  Call it "rules of economics", call it "culture" or whatever you want, but it's obvious that a collective of humans is a chaotic swirl dominated by rules none of us truly understand.

So as the author says, there is no "killing" the Leviathan without breaking off contact between humans.  Instead, can't the Leviathan be a noble creature?  Individual parts rushing to the aid of others in need.  Gazing dreamily into the stars with the intent of extending itself beyond the small rock it now inhabits?

The Leviathan may act to keep its parts in line, but the evolution of society has shown that it certainly has no objection to making a drastic change - especially when its cells benefit.

This Leviathan business (none / 3) (#80)
by GenerationY on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:36:17 PM EST

anything to do with Hobbes or just a coincidence?

Breaking the Cycle (none / 3) (#83)
by haplopeart on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 12:52:37 PM EST

The point of what happens when someone tries to break the cycle is a valid one. Unfortunately its a very hard thing to do, or rather sets the one one trying to break out of the cycle on a very hard road. The business world, and lets be honest the only way to support one's self is to enter the business world in one way or another, expects pieces of paper that prove what your suited to do in life. Without the peices of paper no matter what a persons apptitude for task is the world refuses to believe and assigns that person to the level work that the last peice of paper they got states they are capable of in life. There are exceptions of course. Bill Gates is a notable exception, but his getting around the system and breaking the cycle was as much dumb luck as anything else. I broke out of the cycle soon the end of my system forced education. However I then was set on the hard road to accomplishing life goals through the prove myself route instead of having the shortcut of a piece of paper.
Bill "Haplo Peart" Dunn
Administrator Epithna.com
http://www.epithna.com

leviathan provides for us (none / 2) (#85)
by coderlemming on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:01:23 PM EST

...most of us have forgotten how to exist without the many functions Leviathan provides for us. And that's why we do what it wants, even though it drives us insane.

There's the key, though.  Leviathan provides for us, but just look at what it provides.  Not only has it provided, it's seeded in us a need for all of the things it provides, and a need for much more.  So much of the objects and intangible provisions we've surrounded ourselves with really aren't necessary to our health, wellbeing, or even happiness.  Somehow, Leviathan first convinces us that we need a bunch of extraneous provisions, and then it convinces us to sell our souls to get them... and all starting from a very young age.

I, too, swore off kids.  Nominally, this is because I don't feel like spending the time and energy to raise them, and I don't feel like I'll get as much out of the experience as others.  But then I remembered one of my very first reasons for not wanting kids, back when I was in my mid teens -- I didn't want to feed this society by bringing in more slaves, and I didn't want to enslave my children.  This world isn't a world I'd wish on anyone.

You're just one step away from a workable solution, though.  I feel the problem, the root cause of this ugly beast called Leviathan, is society on a grand scale.  It just won't work without the ugliness we've seen.  

In the future, I intend to live my life on a much smaller scale.  Smaller society, closer food supplies, much more fine-grained involvement in all of the things that make up my daily life and health.  Yes, I'm talking about living in a commune, and yes, I realize it's not for everyone.  I just know that I, personally, have my own happiness to worry about, and this is the best way I can see to escape Leviathan.


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Go be impersonally used as an organic semen collector!  (porkchop_d_clown)

Unless... (3.00 / 7) (#91)
by NoMoreNicksLeft on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:33:25 PM EST

You have a significantly higher station in life than I do, you're not one of Leviathan's brain cells. More like a cell in the wall of Leviathan's bowels. Can't leave, and forced to deal with all the shit that torrents past you.

--
Do not look directly into laser with remaining good eye.
1984 (none / 3) (#95)
by Big Sexxy Joe on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 01:59:59 PM EST

Well, you know for a lot of people school isn't like what you describe.  It's a dilapidated building with air conditioning, in which they are babysat by the least competant teachers so that they won't be on the streets shooting people.  There's no effort to stop the teaching of phonics as there is no effort to really educate them in the first place.  Furthermore, the funding necessary to educate them is not there.  They are simply held there.

Of course, the machine that Gatto describes exists too.  I always had the privelege of being educated in these depressing fascist regimes.  We seem to have two school systems.  One for the proles, which is simply there to crush them.  And another for the outer party, which makes them good little automatons.  You are thrown from the outer party track possibly because you are too stupid to contribute, but usually because you are too independent and they can't break you.

Of course, I read 1984 in school, so maybe my theory is bunk.

I'm like Jesus, only better.
Democracy Now! - your daily, uncensored, corporate-free grassroots news hour

[OT] Not Wanting Kids... (2.60 / 5) (#97)
by DLWormwood on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 02:06:31 PM EST

As yet another k5'er who doesn't want them, here's a site some of you might appreciate given that being "childfree" seems to be a subtle undercurrent of this article.

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement
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Those who complain about affect & effect on k5 should be disemvoweled

Speaking of Leviathan (3.00 / 5) (#114)
by Zeptillian on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 03:22:20 PM EST

While Mr. John Taylor Gatto does take an entirely too pessimistic view of our educational system, I can't believe that the school system is really that bad, or that it cannot be substantially improved. I believe that each person is responsible for how much they want to take part in their own life, and if things suck for you because you are a drone, then it's because you let it get that way.

Russian author Victor Pelevin has a very good novel which examines this beast from the perspective of a Moscow ad writer who grew up on the outside of capitalism. Guided as much by Zen philosophy as well as magic mushrooms he travels on a journey of spiritual enlightenment towards understanding the true nature of the game. Pelevin is one of the greatest Russian authors since Nabokov. I highly recommend it. The whole book is there in the link above, or you can buy it, if you prefer. If you are interested, but you're too lazy to read the whole book, the manifesto transmitted by Che Guevara in chapter 7 pretty much sums it all up.
www.mediacasualty.com

I liked school (none / 2) (#124)
by janra on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 04:08:52 PM EST

Even junior high, but high school was better.

And no, I wasn't one of the popular kids.
--
Discuss the art and craft of writing
That's the problem with world domination... Nobody is willing to wait for it anymore, work slowly towards it, drink more and enjoy the ride more.

Well, personally (none / 3) (#126)
by GenerationY on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 04:14:03 PM EST

I'm pretty glad I went to school (I'm not an American, but I can't imagine our state schools -- 'public schools' in American speech -- are so much different from yours).

I suspect I did learn some things because when I went in I couldn't read or do multiplication or division. Also, I learned how to deal with other people (admitedly, sometimes the hard way, but how else are some of those lessons to be learned else through experience?). In general I was taught certain things and also taught how to teach myself where necessary. I didn't go to a trendy or particularly liberal school but questioning the system was not seen as unhealthy behaviour for young people interested in the world about them and was to some extent encouraged in English Lit and the humanities.

I'm not aware that I was much brain washed beyond basic socialisation (perhaps the dread fingers of the Man are on my shoulder, but personally I don't fancy the life of a crazed savage outcast).

My real point here is that one can get carried away with this sort of navel gazing. There are good schools and bad schools, sure. There are also people too dumb or weak minded to think for themselves, but they are going to be victims whatever happens. If the underlying thesis is that capitalist society is bad, well, what the hell is there left to say on that subject? Schools, like any other social institution, really just mirror the society in which they exist. You'd best get the revolution started or something.

School (1.75 / 4) (#141)
by debacle on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 05:40:51 PM EST

I was bored in Kindergarden
I was bored in First Grade
I was bored in Second Grade
I was bored in Third Grade
I was bored in Fifth Grade
I was bored in Sixth Grade
I was bored in Seventh Grade
I was bored in Eighth Grade
I was bored in Ninth Grade, except for Science
I was bored in Tenth Grade
I was bored in Eleventh Grade, except for Calculus
I was bored in Twelvth Grade, except for Physics

No challenge, no urge to learn. Reading ahead was seen as rude, talking out loud was seen as disruptive, helping other children was seen as being nosey, rushing through exams that I didn't care about was considered careless.

I suppose that I was careless when it came to school, and I don't really mind that. I have a "highschool education" but many of my friends are joining a trend where they drop out at 16 and get their GED before 17, hitting college and getting out before 20.

What's the world coming to? An adult before 20? Crazy!

It is my firm belief that the communal mind's solution to all of our problems is not far off from either The Matrix or Skynet.

It is my firm belief that if we don't destroy civilization, it will destroy us.

Destroy civilization in order to save it.

It tastes sweet.

I May Be a Teacher, but I'm Not an Educator (none / 2) (#153)
by daigu on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 06:33:54 PM EST

I May Be a Teacher, but I'm Not an Educator
By John Taylor Gatto
760 words
25 July 1991
The Wall Street Journal
PAGE A8

In the first paragraph, he states: "...So I'm going to quit, I think." However, it is not the name of the article. Just thought I would clarify for anyone that wanted to find the original article and read it.

Why am I not suprised? (1.00 / 5) (#156)
by NoMoreNicksLeft on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 06:56:32 PM EST

From a community that voted the <a href="http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/7/3/93812/20676">Performance-based Teaching Compensation</a> story not a month ago, is it possible to be shocked that:

A) 80% of those commenting have clearly not even skimmed a single chapter of Gatto's book.
B) Every fourth post comes to the defense of a education system, seemingly without reason
C) Half those in the discussion have a "just below the surface" but still perceptible attitude of "if it sucks for you or yours, then somehow you aren't doing it right, don't buck the system and you'll be happier".
D) Nearly everyone chimes in with their own personal school anecdote, usually with a positive tone, but fails to mention any at all about the dozens, if not hundreds, of students they must have went to school with. Let me guess, they all had positive experiences too?
E) More than a few concede the existence of this non-conspiracy, but try to persuade us that it's actually a good thing.
F) Fully 1/10th of the posts seem to attack this on the grounds that it was authored by localroger, rather than that the book itself is objectionable, or that the k5 review is of low quality.
G) Those that defend this "Leviathan" do so almost certainly not because they think it is an ethical, moral or even necessary construction, but rather that they (or their children) hope to somehow climb to the top of the monstrosity?

--
Do not look directly into laser with remaining good eye.

School was great. (1.50 / 4) (#160)
by Dr Unclear on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 07:11:40 PM EST

I made good grades effortlessly, was popular with the students and respected by the teachers, and I got to beat up nerds and take their money. I realized even then they were too smart for that money, much too busy developing their intellectual chops to fret chump change. I wonder where they are today, those nerds. Oh, that's right, fretting trolls on kuro5hin. Geniuses.

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"Always go to other people's funerals, otherwise they won't come to yours."

Play to Learn: Fix a Toilet! (none / 1) (#165)
by Eviction on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 07:41:59 PM EST

I like this concept of play to learn. The master of this method is Mr. Miyagi from Karate Kid. The first Karate Kid movie should be required watching for all parents.

/To Pat Morita:/
Thank You, Mr. Miyagi! Daniel-San's lessons teach us all.

EVICTION HAS BEEN BITCH-SLAPPED BY THE K5 EDITORS. IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHY, PLEASE LET HIM KNOW. That's right. Due to editorial misconduct, his serial suspense story will never be finished.

The Horrors of School (2.16 / 6) (#168)
by Nighthawk1961 on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 08:27:18 PM EST

I have read the first 5 chapters of the book. And so far, I agree totally.
For me and many of my schoolmates, both boys and girls, school was *not* a fun place to be.
I live and went to school in Southern Ontario, Canada. In Canada, 4th grade students are 10 years old.
My fourth grade teacher was a *scary* lady. She had make-up that made her look like "Frankenstiens Bride" - I kid you not. But the worst part was the way she taught, in short, she was a first class BITCH!
I managed to get on her wrong side one day, so she cleared out my desk and put me *and* the desk behind the open classroom door (that swung open to the inside of the room). The effect was that I could see her and only her. This went on for about 3 days. I then told my Mother about it and my Mother went to the school and rasied holy hell. This "teacher" (sic) was being needlessly *cruel* to me (or at least that was *my* opinion).
The point of all this is that school was, for me, a lesson in being a "good boy" and had *nothing* to with "education". I have always been excellent at math and science and can read and write with the best of you, but I am not crediting the school system for this.
The above mentioned episode was one of but many such bad times that I endured while in the school system. And this bullshit about "homework" pisses me off to this day. Why should a child have to endure boring and tedious paper work at home? Isn't that why you go to school?
That's my two cents, thanks.
The Night Hawk


so true. (none / 2) (#169)
by CAIMLAS on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 08:42:35 PM EST

Having read this book, it is one of my favorites. It's spot on.
Being someone that is quite interested in intelligence, human thought process, and understanding how people reach conclusions, I find this quite interesting, and most certainly a complex, unsolveable problem due to the nature of large groups of people (at this current time). I've been in a different school system nearly every year of my 'education career', many of them small private schools with so much laundry hanging out you can't even see the building (so to speak). I'm quite well aware of the politics and other brutal systematic methods of conformity that go on.

I've always found it interesting how many parallels the principles behind this book the themes in most of the top films, namely cult/wildly popular/party films, such as Fight Club, Office Space, The Matrix, drug films such as Blow, and even The Graduate, to some degree. The subconscious mind of society has been becoming steadily more conscious of this "Levithian" beast that is societal control, with individuals hardly realizing it themselves. People watch these films repeatedly because they identify with the themes, the people, and the envionment, and they see something of reality in them - yet they're not able to see what it is, exactly, that they're noticing.

I think the only chance for change,really, is for the subconscious societal mind to become conscious. Hollywood seems to be making steps towards doing this, to a certain degree, as there are a lot of people that are wising up to the system to some degree. We can all do our own part by pointing things out to people, but ultimately, I think the system just has to run it's time. Society learns slowly.
--

Socialism and communism better explained by a psychologist than a political theorist.

My own experience (none / 2) (#178)
by MichaelCrawford on Wed Jul 28, 2004 at 09:58:12 PM EST

I can truthfully say that I became educated despite my schooling, not because of it.

I was nearly held back in eighth grade when I came close to failing a "mentally gifted minors" english class at the hands of a cruel and abusive teacher, yet I was later accepted into CalTech to study astronomy.

I ultimately got a degree in Physics from UC Santa Cruz, but my career has been as a computer programmer, my skill at programming being entirely self-taught, learned by reading books, writing programs, and reading other peoples' code.


-- Could you use my embedded systems development services?


a few comments (none / 2) (#191)
by tiger on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 12:03:11 AM EST

Several years ago I became interested in this schooling subject and the current alternatives to it, homeschooling and unschooling. Among other things, I read Gatto's 1992 Dumbing Us Down book, which is still in print. Reading Gatto was enlightening, and I used his book as the primary source when I wrote a K5 story on this schooling subject two years ago: Unschooling: An Alternative to Public Schools (this K5 story made the front page and has close to 400 comments; my K5 story was a subset of my slightly longer article Unschooling: Self-Directed Learning is Best, which I wrote in March 2002).

Leviathan doesn't care. You cannot beat a thing like that unless you're willing to tear out its heart -- and that means destroying our entire civilization.

I agree that it is not possible to undo forced schooling for the American population as a whole, because the current establishment is too entrenched and there is no revolution in sight. However, it is still possible at this time in America for individual parents to opt for homeschooling or unschooling for their own children, as long as they follow their state's current requirements.

Whether or not homeschooling/unschooling will ever be outlawed and criminalized in America remains to be seen, but at present it is legal, and parents should take advantage of this opportunity assuming they want what is best for their children.

--
Americans :— Say no to male genital mutilation. In Memory of the Sexually Mutilated Child



I remember working through this problem myself.. (none / 1) (#194)
by nightfire on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 12:18:30 AM EST

The problem with fighting Leviathan is that ultimately, Leviathan is made up of us.

A few years ago I remember reading many articles about greed, control, and horrible injustice, and the "system" got to me. I sorta lost it.

I remember a bizarre conversation on IRC with a friend. It started as venting, and progressed into a disturbing and deluded rant, conceptually, about destroying the system, undoing what we have.. ending misery. My mind seemed to be recursing endlessly as I became conscious of this omnipresent "Leviathan."

Looking back at the log the next day, it was quite frightening to see that almost everything that I had written was gibberish (yet I recalled it making sense at the time; and no I wasn't on drugs :).

The only text that was intelligible towards the end was the last thing I wrote:

All men are great
before declaring war
on humanity.

Reconciliation I suppose.

school IS good preparation for corporate work (none / 2) (#195)
by lazloToth on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 01:06:28 AM EST

Having worked within highly bureaucratic large impersonal corporations, I believe Gatto is right, school is good preparation for that, the more of your soul/mind that school kills, the less soul/mind killing needs to take place after you are accepted into the corporate world.

The whole dumb, submissive, cow-like ideal of all but maybe 0.00001% in the corporate hive is supported by the schools pretty well, hand in hand with your Pharmas churning out Ritalin. We're all getting good value for our tax and health care dollars, if that's what we're shooting for anyway.

yawn (2.80 / 5) (#198)
by epburn on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 01:38:32 AM EST

I hope he can blame public schools for his writing style. Gatto's particular combination of dry, rambing, and strident are a special kind of unreadable. I was interested until I read the prologue.

Did my English teachers indoctrinate me? Have I been poisoned against Gatto? Damn you, public school system!

Leviathon (2.25 / 4) (#209)
by ShiftyStoner on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 04:03:41 AM EST

I saw it in the 5th grade. I'm still angry. More angry no one seems to care, rather they do care. They complain not enough billions are being spent on brainwashing chilren. Parents themselves force their children to go to school, raise them their entire lives basicaly believing there goal in life is to get an "education". What for is unclear lawer doctor astronot presidant. Doens't matter, what matter is you need to get that A+, you need to get that education.

I read an article by this guy in hightimes about a year back. Maybe less. I think it was this guy anyway, don't remember the name just the story sounds the same.
( @ )'( @ ) The broad masses of a population are more amenable to the appeal of rhetoric than to any other force. - Adolf Hitler

I think I'm missing something (none / 0) (#216)
by bob6 on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 07:45:57 AM EST

Schooling is part of the collective project, in every part of the world, that's the whole point of schooling. So what? Is he discovering that he actually doesn't like that project?

Cheers.
Obligitory Jest (2.40 / 5) (#218)
by FantocheDoSock on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 09:28:00 AM EST

"The Leviathan has you, Neo."

She sighs and nods (none / 3) (#239)
by crazydee66 on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 01:52:14 PM EST

It's good to know that there is another D out there that is crazy. And she has seen "it" also.
I'm not totally evil yet.
Hello, I'm the Noodle, and I was unschooled (none / 0) (#262)
by Noodle on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 07:05:43 PM EST

It worked out alright. I had a healthy number of close friends growing up; some of them were homeschooled or unschooled, and some were not. I always got along well with my family. I accidentally taught myself to read at age eight, and went from Dr. Suess to 400+ page fantasy novels in about six months. Though I was too lazy to teach myself higher math and lacked the resources at home to pursue the applied sciences, I did eventually show some interest in those topics, and began taking classes at community college.

Sure, I've often felt a bit disconnected from society, but that's fine. To anyone with a reasonably thick skin and an elementary understanding of history, nothing's all that shocking. Western Civilization's not such a hard nut to crack. I think I'm as well equipped as one can be to survive and stay sane in the modern world.

{The Nefarious Noodle}

Welcome to 1984+20 (none / 0) (#263)
by John Asscroft on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 07:07:54 PM EST

George Orwell believed that tyranny would come with a hob-nailed boot, grinding down forever upon the face of the people. Reality, however, is that such tyrannies do not last. Even the Soviet Union, as hardnosed an Orwellian state as it was, eventually fell apart under the weight of its own internal contradictions.

The velvet glove, not the hob-nailed boot, is the best way to control a people. This book is a how-to guide on how to build the perfect "soft" police state -- a police state where the government rarely intervenes directly in the life of the people, where the majority of people believe they are free, yet, somehow, the majority of the people end up doing exactly what those in power wish them to do. It shows how to indoctrinate the youth of a nation into blind respect for authority, even when said respect is unwarranted. It isn't the full story -- but it is certainly the start of the full story.

-- Your Attorney General
We must destroy freedom to save it from the terrorists who want to destroy freedom. Else the terrorists have won.

What's the alternative ? (none / 1) (#280)
by bugmaster on Fri Jul 30, 2004 at 03:43:51 AM EST

I confess, there are aspects of the Leviathan that I hate as much as localroger -- the widespread conformity being the foremost. But... what's the alternative ? All of you who are yelling, "Communism !", you can stop yelling now, because that's just as bad if not worse -- look at what happened in USSR, Cuba, North Korea, etc. The thing is, our society allows us to wield powers which a Unabomber-style hermit can't even imagine. We can, quite literally, look upon the surface of other worlds (through robotic cameras if not with our own eyes). We can edit the genome of living things (well, not that well so far). We can instantly communicate across the entire planet.

These powers greatly expand our horizons, and, ultimately, allow us to live much more interesting lives than the Amish or the Unabombers can achieve. Unfortunately, it takes a massive amount of resources to launch a spacecraft or sequence a genome; this means that most people will only see this stuff on TV -- but it also means that, without a massive Leviathan of some sort to gather and channel these resources, there would be no spacecraft or genomes.

If we gave up on Leviathan, we'd have to give up on most of this stuff, as well. Is it really worth it ?
>|<*:=

My observations... (none / 2) (#281)
by nuck on Fri Jul 30, 2004 at 03:54:10 AM EST

As a twenty-something planning on being a parent within the next ten years, I am thinking about the economic realities of tomorrow in making today's choices and one specific reality is the decision of sending my children to public vs. private schools. When I look at public schools, what I really see are work education centers. When you are in public schools, you are taught by the system to sit still, pay attention, follow directions, synthesize information into reports without doing much original thinking in a heirarchical structure of responsibility and power. The other students enforce conformity often to the lowest common denominator and punish devience through social exile. Attractive girls are showered with attention while sensitive boys are shunned; Smart girls are excluded from popularity while primitive instincts are reinforced in men through sports programs involving social promotion. All of this takes place in a situation where the students must show up at 8am, get a 15 minute recess, 40 minute lunch, 15 minute recess, and then are dismissed. All property on campus is subject to search or seizure as the property belongs to the school. This sounds exactly like a standard oppressive corporate environment pandering to the lowest common denominator and forcing unique individuals into quiet frustration. I attended private school where the rules were more flexible and difference was respected with promotional programs including but not limited to great books, great math, public speaking, work study... and this was in 1-8th grade. The penalties for slacking were harsh to enforce motivation yet uniqueness was rarely punished; a majority of the kids were very creative and have gone on to do well in their respective fields. I agree with the book mentioned previously, The Bell Curve, and it's implications for the society. Smart people do tend to marry smart people and the combination produces an offspring with a greater potential for intelligence than either of the parents. On the inverse, conformists marry conformists and produce an offspring that is more conforming that either of the parents thus growing a gap between the two. I would imagine over time these groups geogravitate together and we end up with our current situation: a bulk of experimental, unique, thoughtful, artistic, innovative culture on the coasts of our country and a center of religious fundamentalists. I advocate an opening learning model free of busy work and rote learning; imagine if from day one you had been raised free of the requirement to memorize lists in favor of exposure to context and learning through experience. If instead of learning a jaded version of history about the native americans and being tested on the white men who were relevant in their extermination, you had the opportunity at a young age to watch multimedia materials produced by native americans and white americans. The earlier you can begin that thought, the stronger your brain will be later. I've been a round peg trying to fit into a square educational system my entire life and I have now accepted (at 26) for better or for worse, I was raised without those barriers of conformity and innovation many people hug furiously. I wish I was more conformist sometimes, it would make life simpler not to be so open to option and adhere to a doctrine, but hey, I just gotta be me. To bring it full circle, for the children that may arrive someday, I hope to be able to put them in a loose school with lots of stimulation which promotes their freethinking and take them during summer on adventures to show them life. Fuck conformity; I going to find me a weird wife and have some weird kids. :)

Favorite quote from the book. (3.00 / 7) (#284)
by jrincayc on Fri Jul 30, 2004 at 09:36:04 AM EST

From Separations by John Taylor Gatto in The Underground History of American Education:

The greatest intellectual event of my life occurred early in third grade before I was yanked out of Xavier and deposited back in Monongahela. From time to time a Jesuit brother from St. Vincent's College would cross the road to give a class at Xavier. The coming of a Jesuit to Xavier was always considered a big-time event even though there was constant tension between the Ursuline ladies and the Jesuit men. One lesson I received at the visiting brother's hands2 altered my consciousness forever. By contemporary standards, the class might seem impossibly advanced in concept for third grade, but if you keep in mind the global war that claimed major attention at that moment, then the fact that Brother Michael came to discuss causes of WWI as a prelude to its continuation in WWII is not so far-fetched.3 After a brief lecture on each combatant and its cultural and historical characteristics, an outline of incitements to conflict was chalked on the board.

"Who will volunteer to face the back of the room and tell us the causes of World War One?"

"I will, Brother Michael," I said. And I did.

"Why did you say what you did?"

"Because that's what you wrote."

"Do you accept my explanation as correct?"

"Yes, sir." I expected a compliment would soon follow, as it did with our regular teacher.

"Then you must be a fool, Mr. Gatto. I lied to you. Those are not the causes at all." It was like being flattened by a steamroller. I had the sensation of being struck and losing the power of speech. Nothing remotely similar had ever happened to me.

"Listen carefully, Mr. Gatto, and I shall show you the true causes of the war which men of bad character try to hide," and so saying he rapidly erased the board and in swift fashion another list of reasons appeared. As each was written, a short, clear explanation followed in a scholarly tone of voice.

"Now do you see, Mr. Gatto, why you must be careful when you accept the explanation of another? Don't these new reasons make much more sense?"

"Yes, sir."

"And could you now face the back of the room and repeat what you just learned?"

"I could, sir." And I knew I could because I had a strong memory, but he never gave me that chance.

"Why are you so gullible? Why do you believe my lies? Is it because I wear clothing you associate with men of God? I despair you are so easy to fool. What will happen to you if you let others do your thinking for you?"

You see, like a great magician he had shifted that commonplace school lesson we would have forgotten by the next morning into a formidable challenge to the entire contents of our private minds, raising the important question, Who can we believe? At the age of eight, while public school children were reading stories about talking animals, we had been escorted to the eggshell-thin foundation upon which authoritarian vanity rests and asked to inspect it.

There are many reasons to lie to children, the Jesuit said, and these seem to be good reasons to older men. Some truth you will know by divine intuition, he told us, but for the rest you must learn what tests to apply. Even then be cautious. It is not hard to fool human intelligence.

Later I told the nun in charge of my dorm what had happened because my head was swimming and I needed a second opinion from someone older. "Jesuits!" she snapped, shaking her head, but would say no more.



A remark (none / 0) (#288)
by bob6 on Fri Jul 30, 2004 at 10:39:48 AM EST

I noticed that some arguments about schooling assume that, once within the school, the pupil is not under her parents responsibility anymore. It seems to me that, even in heavily schooled societies, parents are supposed to watch over the child's schooling and still play the biggest part in her education.
IanoaA but I'm pretty sure there is some parents' representation in school boards, state and federal educational authorities. So how come it is pertinent to claim that:
Internally, away from the critical eyes of parents, the schools [...]
?

Cheers.
Leviathan (none / 0) (#316)
by Trifthen on Fri Jul 30, 2004 at 11:55:12 PM EST

Your little side story of a friend who described Leviathan to you kinda sparked my head a bit, and it made me produce this: Leviathan: Story Time

Do it yourself? (none / 0) (#328)
by irrevenant on Sat Jul 31, 2004 at 08:45:46 PM EST

If you're unhappy with the way schools are currently run, have you considered starting your own?

A poster pointed out that it's inconvenient-to-impossible for a double-income family to home school a child, so why not try for the next best thing:

Pool your resources.  Hire your own teachers/tutors to your own specifications.  Make it a self-paced learning environment where kids have access to the tools to teach themselves whatever they want to know.  Provide external goals. etc. etc.

Literacy 'wherever such a thing mattered' (none / 0) (#335)
by Angostura on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 08:35:48 AM EST

I'll admit that I have not read the book, but this quote just jumped out at me screaming:

"Abundant data exist to show that by 1840 the incidence of complex literacy in the United States was between 93 and 100 percent, wherever such a thing mattered. Yet compulsory schooling existed nowhere."

Now what exactly does that weasel phrase 'wherever such a thing mattered' mean in this context? Perhaps someone could enlighten me.

A sceptic might suspect that the 'abundant data' was gathered about a self selecting sample of the literate cognoscenti and that the real change here has been the extension of 'wherever such a thing mattered' to mean everyone.


Home Schooling (none / 1) (#337)
by Daughter of the High King on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 07:25:47 PM EST

I am a home school mother of five. My husband has a "good" job and we have sacrificed much in order that I may have the privilege to "grow up" with my children. We chose not to watch their minds decay from the cancer we call schools. We have one income, one T.V., one car in which we can all ride together, and one God. My children are a blessing to me and each other. They are happy, active and strong. My children are a joy to all who come in contact with them. They can carry on conversation with skill, tact, and respect. They possess fact, logic and reason. My children will be leaders. Maybe not politically, possibly not even economically, but they will lead: because they think. They will influence those around them and those around them will be richer for having been near them. This is my gift to my children. This is my gift to the world.

School worked for me (none / 1) (#339)
by benis on Sun Aug 01, 2004 at 08:02:41 PM EST

I came out of school with an education. Although I only finished 7 years ago I can only remember 3 teachers. The first teacher I remember was when I was 6 she got the classes attention through songs on her guitar, we would sit at the mat and repeat after her, when she said "whos got brown hair" all the kids with brown hair would chant back "I've got brown hair". I liked this teacher this was far better than yelling or waiting silently till we all shut up, it gave us something to do to pay attention. The main reason I remeber this teacher was she never seemed to get mad with kids for being kids. In the morning songs she would have cath all phrases to get all the kids singing, such as "who's got ten fingers?" It took her several weeks to notice that I never responded to this one. When she finally did she asked me why, to this I replied "I've got eight fingers and two thumbs" she mearly laughed and included it into our songs from then on. The second teacher I remember was when I was 8, if I had tried to inform him I had 8 fingers not 10 he would have shot me with a gun-stapler or hit me with a metre ruler. Thats all I remember about him. all the teachers from then on meld into one institute, untill I reached 17. In my last year at high school our chemistry teacher figured that chemistry was too hard to force on us every day, so one day a week we had an outing, no not to science facilitys or even factorys. We had breakfasts at McD's lunches in parks, trips to the pools what ever we wanted. The by-product of this was the other 4 days we were in class we were all there to learn, this was teh least disruptive class of my highschool years and there was this bond between the members of this class that I hadn't felt since primary school(5-10y). I do agree that the school system is not right and can cause great distress of failure to many students. However I managed to come out ok, though I think that was more because of my family than the schools.
~I'm doing ok in life :)
Great review localroger (none / 1) (#345)
by fleece on Mon Aug 02, 2004 at 07:01:43 AM EST

and thanks for bringing that publication to my attention. As an ex-teacher, it reaffirms something that I have been thinking about for a long time - education is largely about preparing children to become members of an institution - (the professional workplace)BR>
Your review and this article give a more diabolical slant to this (what I thought previously) matter-of-fact notion.



I feel like some drunken crazed lunatic trying to outguess a cat ~ Louis Winthorpe III
I read some of this (none / 1) (#346)
by epepke on Mon Aug 02, 2004 at 11:48:52 AM EST

I read the first printer-friendly versions of the chapters (six beyond the prologue, I believe), and what I mostly got out of it was a massive sense of relief that the bozo isn't teaching any more.


The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head.--Terry Pratchett


Compulsory = bad. (none / 1) (#347)
by A55M0NKEY on Mon Aug 02, 2004 at 03:51:26 PM EST

Compulsory education is bad, because the students don't neccessarily want to be there. This means that in order to meet the statistical goals demanded by those who pay for the schools, strange practices take place.

One such practice is that of assigning graded homework. Graded homework is a way for teachers to have something to average into their gradebooks to bring up the grades of diligent students who do poorly on tests. If a student fails purely on the basis of test scores blame will be assigned to the teacher by parents and administrators for not assigning sufficient homework. They will appear to be too lazy to correct homework, even if the student never studied for the tests. Completed homework is proof that the teacher was not too lazy to assign homework. Averaged into the gradebook, it brings up the grades of diligent students who can't pass the tests, defusing conflicts for the teacher.

The teacher is under pressure to assign lots of homework. The more the merrier, because the more homework is assigned, the more proof there is that the teacher is not lazy and is *trying* to educate. A huge mound of mimeographed crossword puzzles, connect-the-dots-vocab, multiple choice, copy-definitions-from-the-glossary sheets, corrected by fellow students costs the teacher no effort other than putting 'completed' checkmarks into their gradebook, and has the added bonus of taking half the classtime to go over.

But if students don't complete most of the homework, they won't get higher than a C even if they ace all the tests. Incomplete homework is averaged into the gradebook as zeroes.

Why not let students complete the homework or not as they need to? If a student couldn't do well on tests, they could do all the homework and have it averaged in to prop up their grade ( unfairly ) in order to defuse conflicts with parents and administrators without wasting all the other students' time.

After all, the purpose of homework is as a study aid. Why should students waste their time doing homework for subjects they understand when their time would be more effectively spent studying the points that confused them in class, and on practicing those things that they still don't feel 100% confident at? Because some students would not do any homework even if they needed to, and they would fail their tests.

Then parents and administrators would ask them why the teacher didn't make homework mandatory in order to cram the curriculum down even the unwilling students' throats.

Because some students don't want to learn, because they don't want to be there, all students must do copious unneccessary homework. Students do not take the time to do homework in subjects they are having trouble comprehending because it is much more efficient time-per-sheet and GPA wise to complete useless homework for subjects they already understand than it is to plod through learning the subjects they don't already understand.

A hypothetical example: Because doing all the homework would take more time than Jack is willing to invest, he does all his homework except his Geometry homework. Jack is confused by and is doing poorly in Geometry, but it is better to blow off that class GPA wise than to have incomplete homework bring down his grade in the other classes he has no trouble in. Sure, doing the unneccessary homework teaches him nothing, whereas doing the Geometry homework would be valuable, but Jack just doesn't have the time to learn with all the useless paperwork he gets assigned.

If homework favors the compliantly diligent, and anal retentive if only moderately intelligent among the student body, the tests are also designed to deemphasize critical thought and reward rote memorization. Those who put in the 'effort' to remember useless trivia such as all the names of the Ancient Egyptian Pharoahs get an A on the test. An essay on Ancient Egyptian economic factors is absent as a test criteria. Effort is rewarded, useful comprehension is not. Cramming at the last minute, the kid that finished the textbook in the first three weeks of class, reading while the class drilled on the names of famous Assyrians and talked about their models of Ziggurats, can only remember 50% of the pharoahs on the test. And his Ziggurat model sucked as did his cardboard Pyramid that he made when they switched from the Mesopotamia section to the Egypt section. Those crappy cardboard models marked only complete or incomplete were 15% of the grade, so he had to pass *something*. Enough to avoid a redo.

Teachers can tell things to students, but they can't understand the things for the students. That requires an interested student that will do that part on their own, asking questions perhaps, but taking an active role. But because teachers are 'graded' on how many students pass, there is pressure to only test on memorization which requires less active participation from the student.

Of course, students that are interested tend not to focus on minutae, and do not perform well unless they have put in the drill time. Students who have no clue, but have drilled do well.

Grades in compulsory education do not grade intelligence, or comprehension. They are only a measure of how compliantly diligent and anal retentive you are.

I quit high school after my first 9 week report card. It was full of Ds Es and Fs. Though legally 'home schooled' I went directly to college at age 14, graduating at age 19 with a B.A. in Mathematics Magne cum Laude ( As and Bs ). I was able to overcome my lack of 3.75 years of compulsory education because, being compulsory, it is mostly useless. ( I had a 60% average in High School geometry when I quit )

The main difference between High School and College is that College students all want to be there. Because of this, they are entrusted to educate themselves within that framework. If someone doesn't want to study for exams, then they are free to leave, troubling the professor no more.

In college, there is very little if any graded homework. The professors have better things to do with their time than correct it. If you have a question, they have office hours, but they aren't going to waste time looking at stuff you have no problems with.

College students, are therefore free to use their study time to study subjects that they do not fully understand. They can efficiently ignore the stuff they are sure they understand, and spend the time on the troublesome parts.

The grades are for A) Exams and B) Term papers. They don't care how you learned what you did to be able to do A and B.

I have the solution. (none / 0) (#369)
by Lethyos on Sat Aug 21, 2004 at 02:30:27 PM EST

I think this image sums it all up. The battle must not be lost against Leviatan!



earth, my body; water, my blood; air, my breath; fire, my spirit
Have to weigh in on this one (none / 0) (#370)
by spiffariffic on Wed Aug 25, 2004 at 10:29:53 PM EST

I think it's less evil than callously indifferent mediocrity. There are teachers who teach because they love to teach, and you'll remember them. The bulk of teachers are power-hungry, beady-eyed little trolls who teach because they can't do anything else, or for some reason are called as if by sirensong by the politics and meager power they can exert over students. Many teachers simply do not like kids, and that's just the long and short of it.

For those who try to make schools better, there are parents and lawsuits to contend with. Parents will complain that their intellectually unimpressive but plodding children are not included in the GT classes, and their widdle egos are hurting, so, rather than risk a discrimination lawsuit, the little darlings will be integrated by the administration and the quality of the class will go down until it's nothing more than a slightly faster class for those who can at least pretend to pay attention. My brother is 7 years older than me and went through the same school system; by the time I got to it, I only had one real year of GT "enrichment," and afterwards it was all but gone. When he was in school, they had groups of 10 to 15 kids (the actual number of talented children! gasp!) who would get special treatment. When I was in school, we had classes of 25 to 30, and they varied in everything but their blind allegience to authority, their simpering inability to think for themselves or do anything without a teacher telling them to. There were perhaps four or five actually "talented" kids among them (not counting myself). Consequently the level of education went down.

I left high school in February during my 9th grade year, ostensibly to "be homeschooled," but really to homeschool myself. By that time I had been convinced of the futility of even trying any more, since school was so clearly worthless--and the school itself regarded me in the same manner. I had teachers who recommended I be allowed to skip certain classes and the administration said no, even to my art teacher who said "Let her take photography." What on earth did they stand to gain by refusing to let me take photography, exactly? Would I learn the magical ways of the adult world and thereby be able to overthrow their tenuous authoritah?

I never will know, but I told them exactly what they were going to lose. It was with some satisfaction that I got to say, "I'm walking my high-scoring ass outta here" to the principal who told me he was very sorry, but no. (That's the whole purpose of magnet programs, you see. They need to bring in higher testing students to bring up their averages.) And so I did.

Six years later, I can't say I've regretted it.

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